Esmil Rogers - 2K13

[Moonlight J]

ignore what he did in Colorado where people thought he was tipping pitches and hone in on how he did with Cleveland.

http://statcorner.com/pitch.php?id=469134

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=6317&position=P

color me extremely intrigued for this season if Toronto leaves him in the bullpen. Here's what I wrote on him for my latest Rotowire article

The Rockies gave up on him and the Indians gladly took him on. He threw 53 innings for Cleveland las season, striking out 25 percent of the hitters he faced, walking just six percent, and had a 3.13 FIP for them in that time frame along with a 1.11 WHIP. His overall numbers are dirtied up by time spent in Coors Field but Rogers quietly had a good season in relief for the Indians. Once he moved away from Denver, he found the strikezone at an above-league average rate and when he did go out of the zone, hitters chased at an above-league average rate. Additionally, the percentages of strikes thrown jumped from 58 percent in 2011 to 66 percent in his time with Cleveland last year.

Now, he’s off to Toronto where he will compete with Steve Delabar, Casey Janssen, and a returning Sergio Santos for late leverage opportunities. If he can retain the control he found in Cleveland, he could be very interesting.

[BigJonEmpire]

Other than May, when Rogers had a 10.64 BB9, xFIP puts most of the bad numbers on a .457 BABIP in April and .412 in May.

Unfortunately, I think he may find himself a little buried in Toronto's bullpen to start the season. I doubt he has much value in most mixed leagues but deeper and only leagues he could be worth high single digits. I think he would be third at best in the Toronto closer rankings - behind Jansen and Santos. I actually like him better as a starter than a reliever but no one in Toronto asked me.

[TranaGreg]

Other than May, when Rogers had a 10.64 BB9, xFIP puts most of the bad numbers on a .457 BABIP in April and .412 in May.

Unfortunately, I think he may find himself a little buried in Toronto's bullpen to start the season. I doubt he has much value in most mixed leagues but deeper and only leagues he could be worth high single digits. I think he would be third at best in the Toronto closer rankings - behind Jansen and Santos. I actually like him better as a starter than a reliever but no one in Toronto asked me.

curious BJE, do you like Rogers better as a starter or reliever?

FWIW I think he'll be for the Jays what Alexi Ogando was for Texas last year.

[BigJonEmpire]

curious BJE, do you like Rogers better as a starter or reliever?

FWIW I think he'll be for the Jays what Alexi Ogando was for Texas last year.

I like him as a starter. Ogando is a decent comp.

[Moonlight J]

People hit the ball freakin' HARD off this guy. Career LD% of almost 23% --- no wonder his BABIPs are high.

He had issues tipping pitches with the Rockies that the Indians apparently fixed. Combine that with Coors Field and you have problems.

LD rates are wonky because not all press boxes are the same. Some are higher, some are lower, so LD% are at the discretion of the stringer working the game.

[Moonlight J]

Rockies pitchers had a home BABIP of .337 last year - 28 points higher than any other team in baseball. They also had a 22.7% LD rate last year which was 2nd only to the Marlins. Over the past five seasons, Rockies pitchers have had the highest LD rates at 20.7%

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=pit&lg=all&qual=0&type=2&season=2012&month=15&season1=2008&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=4,d

[Moonlight J]

Hey, I stand corrected. Good research, thanks.

I'd assume it comes from the decrease in the break on breaking balls

[cavebird]

Or the fact that the Rockies have trotted out a whole lot of crappy pitchers the last several years.

[Cobain's Ghost]

Or the fact that the Rockies have trotted out a whole lot of crappy pitchers the last several years.

:cold:

cold. but true. so, so true. :dispirited:

[BigJonEmpire]

:cold:

cold. but true. so, so true. :dispirited:

The worst part is they've had some talented arms, they just had no clue how to use them or even help them adopt to the ballpark.

[joncarlos]

Rockies pitchers had a home BABIP of .337 last year - 28 points higher than any other team in baseball. They also had a 22.7% LD rate last year which was 2nd only to the Marlins. Over the past five seasons, Rockies pitchers have had the highest LD rates at 20.7%

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.asp...ers=0&sort=4,d

Press Box Height? Colin's spreadsheet isn't loading, and Coors was excluded from his study, but specific to the LD%, that might be a factor:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/when-is-a-fly-ball-a-line-drive/

[Moonlight J]

Press Box Height? Colin's spreadsheet isn't loading, and Coors was excluded from his study, but specific to the LD%, that might be a factor:

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/ar...-a-line-drive/

yep, it varies by stadium. Chicago and now Anaheim actually have press boxes that are down the 1B line rather than behind home plate

[Don Quixote]

Or the fact that the Rockies have trotted out a whole lot of crappy pitchers the last several years.

You beat me to it. I was going to say, "It could be that the Colorado pitchers well and truly suck."