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What's the big deal here? He stayed sober for years, so why is it catastrophic that he had a few drinks ONCE?
I don't have any experience with alcoholism so someone might be able to enlighten me, and I don't mean to come off as insincere. Are problem drinkers sentenced to a live of sobriety, with mo middle ground?
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Originally posted by virgonomic View PostWhat's the big deal here? He stayed sober for years, so why is it catastrophic that he had a few drinks ONCE?
I don't have any experience with alcoholism so someone might be able to enlighten me, and I don't mean to come off as insincere. Are problem drinkers sentenced to a live of sobriety, with mo middle ground?"I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostMy thought is that yes some are sentenced to a life of sobriety as one drink may lead to full blown relapse. I guess it depends on the individual. I have no experience but just heard this was true.
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Originally posted by Mithrandir View PostMy thought is that yes some are sentenced to a life of sobriety as one drink may lead to full blown relapse. I guess it depends on the individual. I have no experience but just heard this was true.
To the recovering person it is not "sentenced to a life of sobriety," it is the gift of sobriety.
To be sure I never met an alcoholic that wanted to drink "normally." We really want to drink the way we want to drink without the consequences. After a while the way we drink has too many consequences. We become a slave to the drinking lifestyle. Hence it is a gift once we get some success with it.
One drink is a full blown relapse. It may not carry the momentary consequences of a full blown drunk fest, but it is a real sign of something gone wrong. An example of this is why would Hamilton risk millions of dollars, a career he loves, and possibly the support of family and friends for one drink? Or one night of drinking. It is because he is an alcoholic and that is normal behavior.
If the object of the alcoholic is to quit drinking it will never be easier to do than right now. That is not to say it is easy, but it only gets harder the more we drink or the more we relapse. I may feel like drinking today, but if I do not tomorrow will be easier to stay sober than if I fall today. Some days are tough, but in the long run it truly does get easier. Even to this day, there are occasions that I feel like drinking. They are few and far between. And always I am grateful the next day that I did not fall.
When I was drinking I thought about drinking everyday. Where was I going to go, was it going to be Gin or Scotch, did I have the funds or where could I go that takes checks (to buy a few days before payday). Today, I go months without thinking of drinking. Writing this, I am reflecting on drinking, but it is not the same as thinking about drinking. I have no desire to drink writing about this.
I am free. I do not want to go back to the old ways.
When recovering people understand this they have a much better chance of being successful.
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Good stuff indeed...7+ weeks of sobriety for me, longest stretch since I started drinking at 14.If DMT didn't exist we would have to invent it. There has to be a weirdest thing. Once we have the concept weird, there has to be a weirdest thing. And DMT is simply it.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostA couple of things from one who has experience:
To the recovering person it is not "sentenced to a life of sobriety," it is the gift of sobriety.
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