or 6 yrs, 111 million if you consider the posting fee
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Darvish is a Ranger....6 yrs, approx 60 million
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Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View PostNot a chance. They always said it was one or the other."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostI don't know that's necessarily true...10 million a year isn't a fortune these days for a starting pitcher. They lost CJ Wilson, who they paid 7 million last year, so it's a net gain of only 3 million at this point. I heard a rumor that Detroit might be interested in Michael Young, which would more than free up enough for Prince...Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostI don't know that's necessarily true...10 million a year isn't a fortune these days for a starting pitcher. They lost CJ Wilson, who they paid 7 million last year, so it's a net gain of only 3 million at this point. I heard a rumor that Detroit might be interested in Michael Young, which would more than free up enough for Prince...I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
The Weakerthans Aside
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostI don't know that's necessarily true...10 million a year isn't a fortune these days for a starting pitcher. They lost CJ Wilson, who they paid 7 million last year, so it's a net gain of only 3 million at this point. I heard a rumor that Detroit might be interested in Michael Young, which would more than free up enough for Prince...
Also, as far as Fielder goes, if they hadn't signed Darvish, the entire $111M would still be in Texas' pocket to spend how they pleased, now the entire $111M is allocated, one way or another.Some people say winning isn't everything. I say those people never won anything.
Quitters never win, winners never quit, but those who never win AND never quit are idiots.
The last thing I want to do is hurt you...but it's still on the list.
Some people are like Slinkies, they are not really good for anything but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs.
"...relentless inevitability of Yankee glory." - The Onion
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I think that Heyman wrote this, trying to help out his buddy Boras, but I read that the Rangers might consider Prince to replace Josh Hamilton. Give Prince a mega-deal, with a relatively low 2012 salary, and then let Hamilton go as a free agent next year, so Prince would get Hamilton's money.
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Originally posted by TopChuckie View PostBut it's not $10M/year, it's $18.5M. Just because the $51M doesn't count for luxury tax purposes or go to Darvish, it's still money that comes out of Texas' pocket/budget. They make a certain amount of money, they are willing/able to spend a certain amount of that money on players. The $51M was spent on a player, regardless of who gets it or how the league categorizes it. The $51M still counts. If anything, it counts a lot more if they have to pay it all now in one lump sum and not defer it over those 6 years like an actual 6 @ $18.5M contract that's not really worth $18.5M in six years.
Also, as far as Fielder goes, if they hadn't signed Darvish, the entire $111M would still be in Texas' pocket to spend how they pleased, now the entire $111M is allocated, one way or another."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Good point by Horns - I expect Texas is most concerned with yearly salaries/luxury tax issues with the big hammer coming in 2014. Total income, with two WS appearances and new and rumored very lucrative media contracts recently signed makes the non-luxury tax money much less of a concern, IMO.
I'd be kind of surprised if Texas does have enough for both, but I don't think it's an absolute.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostTrue, but also not true...if you work for a corporation, each individual area of the corporation has it's own budget, and those budgets are rarely, if ever mingled. I suspect that a MLB team works in much the same way, scouting has it's own budget, marketing it's own, minor leagues, etc. So the budget for acquiring Darvish is likely different from that of paying his yearly salary, so it's still 10 million a year, and not 18.5 million as you claim. How and where that 51 million comes about is an entirely different matter, as is how the Rangers got that money, and the tax implications.I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.
The Weakerthans Aside
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How about the important question? Is this guy really that good? Is he worth "ace" money in a Fantasy auction in March?
I'm starting to get into my research for the upcoming PONY draft and he'll be available and I wondered what the Junkie's thoughts were.
Thanks!
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Originally posted by BuckyBuckner View PostSo you think they had $50M sitting there in a "Posting Fee" budget just waiting there? You are correct that the budget to purchase staples and paper for the copier are not coming from the same budget as Josh Hamilton's salary. Yes, there is a budget for scouting and perhaps one for international players and maybe that's where this money came from but there is no way they had $50M sitting there just waiting to spent in one lump sum. I just don't see it as two separate budgets."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostThen you don't work for a traditional corporation...that's the way that things are done. And yes, they had the 50 million just sitting there, probably in the form of a loan commitment from a lender.
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Originally posted by eldiablo505Well, it's hard to say but he's the most sure-fire pitcher ever to come out of Japan. He might be the most sure-fire international pitcher ever to join MLB. Course, that doesn't always translate...
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