Sometimes the snake gets bitten...

[wannabegriffey]

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/beltran-switches-from-boras-to-lozano.html

[Hornsby]

Yeah, that 119 million dollar contract that Boras got for Beltran was certainly substandard. Good luck to Lazano satisfying this guy...an injury prone, 34 YO is not going to be a 20 million dollar a year player.

[BuckyBuckner]

Yeah, that 119 million dollar contract that Boras got for Beltran was certainly substandard. Good luck to Lazano satisfying this guy...an injury prone, 34 YO is not going to be a 20 million dollar a year player.

You have no idea why he switched so I do understand what you are saying and my guess is you don't either.

[heyelander]

You have no idea why he switched so I do understand what you are saying and my guess is you don't either.

and I don't understand what you are saying.

[onejayhawk]

I'll cut CB some slack. Maybe he expected Boras to hold him out. We never know how much the deal is what the player wants, and what the agent pushes.

J

[BuckyBuckner]

I'll cut CB some slack. Maybe he expected Boras to hold him out. We never know how much the deal is what the player wants, and what the agent pushes.

J

That's my point. I think Horns is being too hasty to bash Beltran when we have no idea why he left Boras. Besides don't we slam players for switching to Boras, not away from him? Damned if you do damned if you don't. Tough room.

[Hornsby]

That's my point. I think Horns is being too hasty to bash Beltran when we have no idea why he left Boras. Besides don't we slam players for switching to Boras, not away from him? Damned if you do damned if you don't. Tough room.

Jeesus Buck, lighten up. I'm not bashing Beltran, I just think that he's being a bit ungrateful to a guy who got him a mega deal that he probably didn't deserve, and certainly didn't earn. Like him or not, Boras is the gold standard for agents, and if I had a son who was at that level, I'd do everything in my power to make sure that Boras represented him.

Now is Lazano any good? Don't know...don't really care. But if Beltran thinks that he's going to get half of what he got from the Mets, I think that he's going to be in for a rude awakening.

[BuckyBuckner]

Jeesus Buck, lighten up. I'm not bashing Beltran, I just think that he's being a bit ungrateful to a guy who got him a mega deal that he probably didn't deserve, and certainly didn't earn. Like him or not, Boras is the gold standard for agents, and if I had a son who was at that level, I'd do everything in my power to make sure that Boras represented him.

Now is Lazano any good? Don't know...don't really care. But if Beltran thinks that he's going to get half of what he got from the Mets, I think that he's going to be in for a rude awakening.

My point is you don't the specifics of why he switched. Hell, maybe Boras dumped him!

[Hornsby]

My point is you don't the specifics of why he switched. Hell, maybe Boras dumped him!

Well, I based my comments on the story posted. Which pretty clearly alleges that Beltran was the one who left...

One of the offseason's biggest free agents is leaving baseball's most notorious agency. Carlos Beltran has switched from the Boras Corporation to Dan Lozano's Icon Sports Group, reports ESPN's Jerry Crasnick. Boras gets a taste of his own medicine here, as he's well-known for taking prominent free agent clients from other agencies as big paydays are approaching.

[BuckyBuckner]

Well, I based my comments on the story posted. Which pretty clearly alleges that Beltran was the one who left...

I believe they are also jumping to a conclusion without facts. Again, we don't know the specifics so I don't think it's fair to say that Beltran is being ungrateful.

Beltran switch to Lozano, why? We don't know, they don't say in the article because they don't know. He could have switched because he was dumped by Boras. They just ignored the whys of this story and decided to take a shot at Boras.

Look, I'm sure I'm wrong, but we don't know the specifics so all I'm saying is it's not fair to make a comment without knowing the story.

[TopChuckie]

I'm not sure what the ungrateful part is, Boras got his percentage of the $119M right? He did his job, he got paid. Maybe Beltran feels Boras has too many other players and isn't prioritizing him, not that Lozano isn't probably prioritizing one of his clients over Beltran too (Pujols). That's the part that I find odd. I would think Lozano's percentage of a potential $300M (unlikely) contract might pull a lot of his attention and this is probably Lozano's biggest off-season of his career.

[onejayhawk]

Maybe Tom Cruise wasnt available.

J

[Sharky]

I'm not sure what the ungrateful part is, Boras got his percentage of the $119M right? He did his job, he got paid. Maybe Beltran feels Boras has too many other players and isn't prioritizing him, not that Lozano isn't probably prioritizing one of his clients over Beltran too (Pujols). That's the part that I find odd. I would think Lozano's percentage of a potential $300M (unlikely) contract might pull a lot of his attention and this is probably Lozano's biggest off-season of his career.

Or maybe Beltran wants to "draft" (race car term) using Pujols. Lozano will know exactly who the offseason players are -- and what kind of cash they have to spend.

As for "ungrateful"... puh-leeeze! Boras got his take and so did Beltran. Beltran seems so unlikely to be the ungrateful type. More the overly religious, quiet type with a degenerative knee condition. Mets did great to flip him for Wheeler, but should have traded him years earlier.

[Hornsby]

All agents are sleazy, but this is really over and above. Scary read...

With Lozano, that question is always there. Through the years, he has told clients and colleagues that his career began in 1990 as a kid fresh out of USC, where he played Division I ball and earned a law degree. Every part of that sentence is false. Lozano never passed the bar, never went to law school, didn't even earn an undergraduate degree. He told USA Today that he was just one Spanish class shy of graduating, but he once told a co-worker he lasted only "a few semesters." (He also told USA Today he dropped out because he was "negotiating the biggest deal in baseball history." He was referring to Mike Piazza's gargantuan Mets contract, which was signed nine years after he dropped out.) As for his boast of playing baseball for the Trojans? Longtime USC coach Mike Gillespie has no recollection of Lozano, and his name appears nowhere in a list of all-time letterwinners. It's not for nothing that, according to colleagues, people in the BHSC office took to calling him "Lie-zo."

http://deadspin.com/5861982/dan-lozano-albert-pujolss-superagent-king-of-sleaze-mountain