Sonny Gray for Steven Kwan?

[revo]

16tm deep redraft league, OBP, daily lineup changes. My hitting is really good, my pitching OK at best, and I just lost Patino & Taijuan Walker to injury. Kwan appears to be an OBP machine, and his latest projections on FanGraphs are .360ish OBP, 12-15 HR, ~60 RBI, ~70 R, 6 SB. If I trade Kwan, I would replace him with some combo of VRobles, Tellez, JMateo, Andrus or Taylor Ward.

Sonny Gray would probably be my SP3:

Berrios
Cease
[Gray]
Houck
JRyan
Taillon
Lorenzen
Injured: Baz, Patino, Walker

I'm torn because while I can use Gray, he's really nothing special, and I hate selling players like Kwan high because it always backfires on me. Last year I "sold high" on Adolis Garcia and got burned.

What do you think?

[Sour Masher]

That is tough. Kwan was just traded for a Kershaw in his last year, fwiw. He certainly seems legit in terms of his OBP skills, but of course he will cool down and his overall line is likely to be around that Fangraphs line you just posted. Given your need for pitching, it seems like a fair swap to me.

[The Feral Slasher]

I would trade Kwan for Gray

[virgonomic]

I'm torn because while I can use Gray, he's really nothing special, and I hate selling players like Kwan high because it always backfires on me. Last year I "sold high" on Adolis Garcia and got burned.

What was the return?

Given your hitting depth, it makes sense to sell Kwan. Can you get a better P back from the same team or a different one? If not, I think Gray is a decent return given your needs.

[revo]

What was the return?

Given your hitting depth, it makes sense to sell Kwan. Can you get a better P back from the same team or a different one? If not, I think Gray is a decent return given your needs.

I traded Adolis last April for Yadier Molina as I needed a catcher (I had Jeffers + Kirk) and thought I was selling high, but that was before 27 HRs and 10 more SBs, lol.

I rejected the deal. To me, Gray is a JAG and Kwan at least has some possibilities. He declined Kwan for Kopech, BTW.

[virgonomic]

I traded Adolis last April for Yadier Molina as I needed a catcher (I had Jeffers + Kirk) and thought I was selling high, but that was before 27 HRs and 10 more SBs, lol.

I rejected the deal. To me, Gray is a JAG and Kwan at least has some possibilities. He declined Kwan for Kopech, BTW.

What's a JAG? You should hold out for a dela you're comfortable with.

[revo]

What's a JAG? You should hold out for a dela you're comfortable with.

JAG = Just a Guy

[Ken]

JAG = Just a Guy

I think that's misused on Sonny Gray. He's not an ace by any means but he should be some fantasy teams ~5th best pitcher.

[Bene Futuis]

I mean, we don't really think Kwan is that special, do we? Zero power, zero speed. Great start. Sell high.

[Gregg]

I think that's misused on Sonny Gray. He's not an ace by any means but he should be some fantasy teams ~5th best pitcher.

He went for 22 in this years AL 5x5 12 team keeper. Granted pitching was a little thin, but several people were in on the bidding.

[revo]

I think that's misused on Sonny Gray. He's not an ace by any means but he should be some fantasy teams ~5th best pitcher.

Yeah, that seems about right. Nothing to get excited about.

Shandler has his rule of hot starts, or whatever he calls it, where if the player gets off to a huge start, he can have a cold stretch and his stats will still look great.

I mean, we don't really think Kwan is that special, do we? Zero power, zero speed. Great start. Sell high.

Special, no, but useful, yes. Especially in OBP leagues. It was a fair trade, but I'll just hold off and see what else may be out there.

[Bene Futuis]

As a former Gray owner, he can be frustratingly inconsistent particularly from year to year. Never know which Gray you'll be getting. Good Gray = obviously accept trade. Bad Gray = decline. I guess I don't blame you for shooting for a more sure thing. Kwan has a crazy amount of buzz right now, though, so the iron is certainly hot.

[revo]

Take this with a grain of salt, but CBS has Kwan with a trade value of 5 while Gray is 2.

[Ken]

Take this with a grain of salt, but CBS has Kwan with a trade value of 5 while Gray is 2.

I don't take CBS with a grain of salt! I take them very seriously.

If CBS says Kwan has a trade value of 5 vs Gray 2, then Gray is definitely the guy to get in that trade. By about a 2.5 to 1 margin.

[Pauly]

Anyone remember when Yermin Mercedes was Babe Ruth? Do the deal!