Another dump trade....thoughts

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in my 12 team AL only keeper

Arod $35 2013, Suzuki $24 2013
for
Tomlin $15 2013, J.Francis $5 2013, Nova $5 2013 and Borbon $5 2011 (so he's not even a keeper for next year)

[joncarlos]

That's a pretty horrible deal. Tomlin is absolutely not a keeper. I really don't think Francis is either. Nova... maybe? I don't love the 1.6 WHIP but he has shown flashes. I know A-Rod has been just good (not great) and Ichiro looks horrible, but wow. If Ichiro bounces back at all he's the best keeper in the deal.

[schlesinj]

Yeah, that has no redeeming value for the dumper.

[price]

[QUOTE=schlesinj;25298]Yeah, that has no redeeming value for the dumper.[/QUOTE

This is a local league where we know everyone

This was dad in 10th place dumping to son in 2nd place. I sent the dumper an email last week asking to let me know if he's out of it and give me shot at a few of his players and he didn't. He could have asked for Asdrubal from me in a package deal. He would have been a lot better just getting Asdrubal ($14 for next year) from me for those 2 instead of what he got. Obviously not trying to get the best deal, only help his son.

[SeaDogStat]

[QUOTE=price;25314]

Yeah, that has no redeeming value for the dumper.[/QUOTE

This is a local league where we know everyone

This was dad in 10th place dumping to son in 2nd place. I sent the dumper an email last week asking to let me know if he's out of it and give me shot at a few of his players and he didn't. He could have asked for Asdrubal from me in a package deal. He would have been a lot better just getting Asdrubal ($14 for next year) from me for those 2 instead of what he got. Obviously not trying to get the best deal, only help his son.

Awful... "relatives" deals have to be even more squeaky clean to avoid the perception of collusion...only this isn't perception, this is reality. Clearly a collusionary deal, even though the dad may not think so "he's just helping his son"...

As a commish, I would squash the deal and put them on warning they would be out with another deal like that.

How does the son justify the deal?

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[QUOTE=SeaDogStat;25315]

Awful... "relatives" deals have to be even more squeaky clean to avoid the perception of collusion...only this isn't perception, this is reality. Clearly a collusionary deal, even though the dad may not think so "he's just helping his son"...

As a commish, I would squash the deal and put them on warning they would be out with another deal like that.

How does the son justify the deal?

I don't know. I'm not one to call out others in the league and send emails to the league questioning a trade.

His dad just sucks at roto baseball. He makes pretty horrible trades every year, but usually not with his son. His son should have looked at this deal and how it would appear because they are father and son and not done it or improved it, which by looking at his team, he could have made it a fair deal. This deal didn't hurt the son one bit, as a matter of fact it helped more than just offense, it got rid of 3 pitchers off his roster that would do him more harm then good going forward. Win win for him.