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  • #31
    Originally posted by wombat104 View Post
    If it makes you feel any better I would agree with you on Castro. Bidding should have been rolled back to the last legal bid (Dave for $1) and then anyone should have been able to bid.
    Yes I agree with that too.

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    • #32
      Great stuff, Cavebird! We have an individual notorious for making illegal bids, so we added a rule to the constitution to cover the Castro issue. Not only is bidding rolled back to the last legal bid, the person making the illegal bid is fined $5.

      I like how you finished out your roster - I'm not sure Happ will hit over .260 again, but he'll likely win the starting job and should provide really good counting stats, KSeager is totally unsexy but well worth $2, Stanek being fully healthy is a solid RP and could well sneak in saves, and being able to flip Marquez in and out of away starts is great. The longer layoff may well help Piscotty get and stay healthy and he could be a really good benefit on your reserves.
      I'm just here for the baseball.

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      • #33
        Okay, attempt two at showing the relevant rosters. Keepers in bold. Not side by side, because, well, that doesn't work.

        Me

        C 1 Vazquez,Christian
        1B 44 Freeman,Freddie
        CI 13 Cron,C.J.
        3B 19 Turner,Justin
        2B 25 Moustakas,Mike
        MI 21 Rosario,Amed
        SS 33 Bogaerts,Xander
        OF 11 Acuna,Ronald
        OF 33 Meadows,Austin
        OF 22 Castellanos,Nick
        OF 7 Anderson,Brian
        OF 1 Happ,Ian
        UT 1 Seager,Kyle
        SP 11 Flaherty,Jack
        SP 6 Montas,Frankie
        SP 11 Rodriguez,Eduardo
        SP 4 Musgrove,Joe
        SP 2 Sanchez,Anibal
        SP 2 Marquez,German
        RP 1 Stanek,Ryne
        RP 2 Newcomb,Sean
        RP 4 Karinchak,James
        RP 6 Anderson,Nick
        RP 7 Kennedy,Ian
        RES 0 Abrams,C.J.
        RES 0 Walker,Taijuan
        RES 0 Bleday,J.J.
        RES 0 Piscotty,Stephen
        RES 0 Smoak,Justin
        RES 0 Lopez,Pablo
        RES 0 Treinen,Blake
        RES 0 Thames,Eric
        RES 0 Cruz,Oneil
        RES 0 Fowler,Dexter

        Jeff

        C 2 Jansen,Danny
        1B 4 Voit,Luke
        CI 7 Murphy,Daniel
        3B 23 Donaldson,Josh
        2B 29 Merrifield,Whit
        MI 10 Segura,Jean
        SS 21 Lindor,Francisco
        OF 16 Benintendi,Andrew
        OF 36 Harper,Bryce
        OF 12 Buxton,Byron
        OF 13 Upton,Justin
        OF 3 Puig,Yasiel
        UT 3 Bohm,Alec
        SP 20 Clevinger,Mike
        SP 20 Castillo,Luis
        SP 14 Ryu,Hyun-Jin
        SP 13 Urias,Julio
        SP 7 Weaver,Luke
        SP 2 Samardzija,Jeff
        RP 1 May,Trevor
        RP 2 Harris,Will
        RP 2 Kahnle,Tommy
        RP 14 Kela,Keone
        RP 19 Hand,Brad
        RES 0 Dominguez,Jasson
        RES 0 Skubal,Tarik
        RES 0 Quintana,Jose
        RES 0 Cabrera,Miguel
        RES 0 Stripling,Ross
        RES 0 Kikuchi,Yusei
        RES 0 Kendrick,Howie
        RES 0 Lopez,Reynaldo
        RES 0 Bichette,Bo
        RES 0 Bart,Joey

        Dave

        C 1 Molina,Yadier
        1B 30 Goldschmidt,Paul
        CI 55 Bellinger,Cody
        3B 1 Castro,Starlin
        2B 11 Albies,Ozzie
        MI 11 Mondesi,Adalberto
        SS 6 Gregorius,Didi
        OF 26 Betts,Mookie
        OF 6 Soto,Juan
        OF 1 Reyes,Victor
        OF 1 Heyward,Jason
        OF 1 Kirilloff,Alex
        UT 1 Solak,Nick
        SP 11 Wheeler,Zack
        SP 57 Scherzer,Max
        SP 29 Darvish,Yu
        SP 1 Kim,Kwang-Hyun
        SP 1 Fiers,Mike
        SP 1 DeSclafani,Anthony
        RP 1 Liberatore,Adam
        RP 1 Suter,Brent
        RP 24 Giles,Ken
        RP 12 Martinez,Carlos
        RP 6 Hendriks,Liam
        RES 0 Witt,Bobby
        RES 0 Sanchez,Sixto
        RES 0 Means,John
        RES 0 Pujols,Albert
        RES 0 Pineda,Michael
        RES 0 Winker,Jesse
        RES 0 Hayes,Ke'Bryan
        RES 0 Robert,Luis
        RES 0 Mesa,Victor
        RES 0 Alvarez,Yordan

        The Commish

        C 2 Narvaez,Omar
        1B 1 Moreland,Mitch
        CI 2 Urshela,Giovanny
        3B 40 Rendon,Anthony
        2B 13 Lowe,Brandon
        MI 5 Berti,Jon
        SS 35 Baez,Javier
        OF 57 Yelich,Christian
        OF 6 Reynolds,Bryan
        OF 11 Braun,Ryan
        OF 5 Akiyama,Shogo
        OF 6 Garcia,Avisail
        UT 12 Ohtani,Shohei
        SP 44 Verlander,Justin
        SP 23 Woodruff,Brandon
        SP 5 Tanaka,Masahiro
        SP 1 Mikolas,Miles
        SP 1 Hill,Rich
        SP 1 Montgomery,Jordan
        RP 1 Lindblom,Josh
        RP 1 Petit,Yusmeiro
        RP 1 Stammen,Craig
        RP 5 Betances,Dellin
        RP 7 Rogers,Taylor
        RES 0 Happ,J.A.
        RES 0 Longoria,Evan
        RES 0 O Neill,Tyler
        RES 0 Ahmed,Nick
        RES 0 Bishop,Hunter
        RES 0 Eovaldi,Nathan
        RES 0 Gonzalez,Gio
        RES 0 Nimmo,Brandon
        RES 0 White,Evan
        RES 0 Lux,Gavin

        Mike (the other guy with a solid keeper list)

        C 7 Perez,Salvador
        1B 14 Bell,Josh
        CI 2 Mancini,Trey
        3B 22 Chapman,Matt
        2B 6 Biggio,Cavan
        MI 6 Wong,Kolten
        SS 14 Tatis,Fernando
        OF 1 Senzel,Nick
        OF 13 Soler,Jorge
        OF 10 Reyes,Franmil
        OF 7 Grisham,Trent
        OF 6 Peraza,Jose
        UT 16 Andrus,Elvis
        SP 6 Giolito,Lucas
        SP 37 Strasburg,Stephen
        SP 14 Paddack,Chris
        SP 26 Syndergaard,Noah
        SP 6 Smith,Caleb
        SP 8 McCullers,Lance
        RP 9 Jimenez,Joe
        RP 2 Oberg,Scott
        RP 6 Kintzler,Brandon
        RP 16 Doolittle,Sean
        RP 28 Osuna,Roberto
        RES 0 Tsutsugo,Yoshitomo
        RES 0 Long,Shed
        RES 0 Tauchman,Mike
        RES 0 Dyson,Jarrod
        RES 0 Aquino,Aristides
        RES 0 Mahle,Tyler
        RES 0 Alberto,Hanser
        RES 0 Wright,Kyle
        RES 0 Diaz,Yusniel
        RES 0 Astudillo,Willians


        Those are the top five that I see, although others are close. For shits and giggles, here are the teams of Steve and Colin.

        Steve

        C 1 Smith,Will D.
        1B 1 Tellez,Rowdy
        CI 6 La Stella,Tommy
        3B 16 Bregman,Alex
        2B 3 Odor,Rougned
        MI 2 Profar,Jurickson
        SS 26 Correa,Carlos
        OF 6 Gurriel,Lourdes
        OF 6 Brinson,Lewis
        OF 32 Judge,Aaron
        OF 23 Pham,Tommy
        OF 3 Polanco,Gregory
        UT 2 Carlson,Dylan
        SP 58 DeGrom,Jacob
        SP 56 Buehler,Walker
        SP 27 Nola,Aaron
        SP 17 Luzardo,Jesus
        SP 1 Pearson,Nate
        SP 1 Gibson,Kyle
        RP 1 Vazquez,Felipe
        RP 1 Garrett,Amir
        RP 1 Davis,Wade
        RP 4 Givens,Mychal
        RP 1 Burdi,Nick
        RES 0 Larnach,Trevor
        RES 0 Downs,Jeter
        RES 0 McKay,Brendan
        RES 0 Adell,Jo
        RES 0 Pache,Cristian
        RES 0 Gore,Mackenzie
        RES 0 Kieboom,Carter
        RES 0 Mize,Casey
        RES 0 Puk,A.J.
        RES 0 Whitley,Forrest

        Colin

        C 9 Grandal,Yasmani
        1B 9 Walker,Christian
        CI 7 Davis,J.D.
        3B 2 Diaz,Yandy
        2B 2 Gordon,Dee
        MI 1 Adames,Willy
        SS 1 Simmons,Andrelton
        OF 4 Peralta,David
        OF 2 Hilliard,Sam
        OF 10 McCutchen,Andrew
        OF 1 Santander,Anthony
        OF 7 Renfroe,Hunter
        UT 8 Davis,Khris
        SP 35 Bieber,Shane
        SP 22 Bauer,Trevor
        SP 21 Glasnow,Tyler
        SP 12 Carrasco,Carlos
        SP 17 Gallen,Zac
        SP 5 Bundy,Dylan
        RP 7 Leclerc,Jose
        RP 20 Iglesias,Raisel
        RP 23 Kimbrel,Craig
        RP 31 Yates,Kirby
        RP 35 Hader,Josh
        RES 0 Luciano,Marco
        RES 0 Robinson,Kristian
        RES 0 Brujan,Vidal
        RES 0 Jones,Nolan
        RES 0 Green,Riley
        RES 0 Peralta,Freddy
        RES 0 Margot,Manuel
        RES 0 Taylor,Chris
        RES 0 Mauricio,Ronny
        RES 0 Pena,Erick

        Fingers crossed on formatting.
        Last edited by cavebird; 03-26-2020, 07:35 PM. Reason: Because "to" instead of "two"? Sheez.

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        • #34
          FWIW, the program standings (which are always misleading; for example, it cannot consider that I will use Marquez on the road) after putting the obvious free keepers (Bichette, Alvaraez, etc.) in teams' lineups has Dave at 113.5, me at 107.5, Jeff at 103.5, the Commish at 100.0, another team (Commish's wife) at 99.0, and Mike at 92.5. More or less as I expected. That, however, is using the projections from draft day---i.e. before Mike lost Syndergaard for the season. After updating, me and Dave are the same, Jeff is up to 106.5, Randy is up to 100.5 and his wife is up to 100.0. Mike is down to eighth at 83.0.

          Of course, assuming there is a season, I have on problem compared especially to Dave. He has keepers to trade---Albies, Modesi, etc. I don't have much at all. Montas is about it. With our rules on dump trades (350 in-season salary cap and a max of 3-1), I can't get enough value to trade Acuna that I could fit in my lineup, and Flaherty and E-Rod are on final, expiring contracts.

          So, my analysis of the draft is that more or less the top contenders all held serve. The commish and his wife both had good drafts. All up in the air---everything is tight, and the Syndergaard injury shows how volatile things could be based on injuries. I am happy that I got some depth in SP (Newcomb, Lopez, Walker) and hitting (Piscotty, Thames) in the reserve draft to help me out. On the other hand, the lack of keepers to trade might hamstring me--I would need a new keeper to pop up to help me, and given the prices I paid for my players, I don't know if that is likely. I am going to have to go for it the old fashioned way through the waiver wire.

          So, what sayeth the pen?

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          • #35
            Originally posted by cavebird View Post
            Actually, no. This league has been around since the early 90's in one form or another. Baseball people, not football people. But they were doing 1 C long before most were, for reasons that pre-date my membership in the league. Lots of weird rules that relate to random experiences.
            That's somewhat similar to my league. It dates from the mid-80s (there are no original members left) and the founders just cobbled together a bunch of rules on their own because things weren't really codified back then. Some of the unusual rules have been changed over the years to conform with standard Roto rules, but some of them remain, and 1 C is one of those.
            Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer
            We pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.

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            • #36
              Why would Mike keep Astudillo? That makes no sense...I have to assume a formatting error in that case.

              Otherwise, I do like your team, solid to great at every position, with very good pitching, although a bit light on starters. You'll need Marquez to shine on the road, and maybe at home, and Karinchak to make a contribution. Lopez could be sneaky good, and I really like Treinen. He has the possibility to really take the job if the Jansen recovery hits the skids. Nice job...
              "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
              - Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)

              "Your shitty future continues to offend me."
              -Warren Ellis

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              • #37
                Overall, I agree with Hornsby - very solid team, some risk at SP. I think you're also light on speed - I'm figuring Acuna/Rosario for 65-70 SBs, Meadows for another 15ish, and Happ for about 10. You need a break or two to get some players to deal at dump time - like Happ doing well and generating interest, or, as Horns noted, Treinen taking over as closer, or Piscotty staying healthy and returning to 2018 form. But you look like you have a highly competitive team.
                I'm just here for the baseball.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Hornsby View Post
                  Why would Mike keep Astudillo? That makes no sense...I have to assume a formatting error in that case.

                  Otherwise, I do like your team, solid to great at every position, with very good pitching, although a bit light on starters. You'll need Marquez to shine on the road, and maybe at home, and Karinchak to make a contribution. Lopez could be sneaky good, and I really like Treinen. He has the possibility to really take the job if the Jansen recovery hits the skids. Nice job...
                  He did keep Astudillo. He's a 10th round reserve pick keeper. Kept because, well, he's fun, I guess. He'll likely be dropped before the season starts.

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                  • #39
                    CB - thanks for posting! Great fun and well done (for a Braves fan!).

                    Good luck with your season!

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                    • #40
                      Thanks for the rundown Cavebird! I love reading these.

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