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Originally posted by DMT View PostIt's essentially the same offer as before, the owners are such MFers.
But, overall, I see your conclusion as very accurate.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostWell...yup. As revo noted, it’s a slight bump. And by increasing the highly paid salary rate, they’re clearly making the play for big names and their agents.
But, overall, I see your conclusion as very accurate.
But again, the owners want the players to take on the risk now if there's no postseason.
Furthermore, there's now a clause added where players have to acknowledge the risk of playing and cannot sue.
If this comes down to Manfred imposing a short season, which is his right, where there's no postseason guarantees, why would the Union stand for that? They could easily go on strike in October to screw the owners just like they feel they're getting screwed.
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Originally posted by revo View PostHowever, it is true that the "guaranteed" portion of their offer got lower, meaning if there's no postseason. If there is a postseason, the total $$$ pool got slightly higher.
But again, the owners want the players to take on the risk now if there's no postseason.
Furthermore, there's now a clause added where players have to acknowledge the risk of playing and cannot sue.
If this comes down to Manfred imposing a short season, which is his right, where there's no postseason guarantees, why would the Union stand for that? They could easily go on strike in October to screw the owners just like they feel they're getting screwed.
As for the proposal, if it was a serious proposal, it would not have leaked. Since it did, it was just posturing.
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Originally posted by revo View PostIf this comes down to Manfred imposing a short season, which is his right, where there's no postseason guarantees, why would the Union stand for that? They could easily go on strike in October to screw the owners just like they feel they're getting screwed.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostCavebird's point is valid, and I also think if the players start the season and then strike (or "blue flu") the playoffs, it would be a PR disaster for the players.
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Originally posted by revo View PostYeah, they won't do anything come playoff time. But what they can do is nix the additional playoff teams/rounds in spite because it would generate more $$ for the owners than the players, and many more players can just sit the entire season out.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Originally posted by revo View PostI think like others here have said: if your league rushed and drafted already, then you're S.O.L.If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View PostGood thing I'm playing for next year in half my leagues lol
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Originally posted by revo View PostKeeper leagues are going to have a helluva time with this season and 2022. I know some leagues have voted to have this year "count" for contract purposes, even if there is no season. In pro wrestling, there was the Montreal Screwjob; in fantasy baseball, it could be known as the Covid Screwjob.
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Originally posted by revo View PostKeeper leagues are going to have a helluva time with this season and 2022. I know some leagues have voted to have this year "count" for contract purposes, even if there is no season. In pro wrestling, there was the Montreal Screwjob; in fantasy baseball, it could be known as the Covid Screwjob.I'm just here for the baseball.
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For keeper or auction leagues, why have or even schedule your draft at this point? IMO, you are just looking to complicate matters.
Our league is waiting until we 100% know there will be a season and then will decide the next step. We are an in-peson draft with out of state owners, so we may have to setup a remote option for this year if we go ahead with a roto season. But I believe that we are going to vote to not play it out even is there is a season and just extend all contracts by 1 year.
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