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Originally posted by Ken View PostGotta disagree -- I think the right time to move Votto would have been last year. You're definitely selling low if you move him now.Last edited by Roy Hobbs; 01-25-2019, 10:29 AM.
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Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View PostIt's the right time to move Votto. I also have Rizzo and Bellinger at 1B and was playing Votto in one of my DH spots and he's a marginal starter on my team. Also, he's more like 130 - 140 Runs + RBIs, not 170. I don't feel we can go back in time on Votto. He's 35 and at least to me appears to be declining. It really doesn't matter to my team that he isn't on it. It's always better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late. Having said that, the same thing could definitely be said for Bumgarner, but at least he helps my team more for 2019 than Votto would. At least I hope he does.
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Originally posted by cavebird View PostHe was 134 R + RBI last year in a very bad year for him. As I noted, all of the projection systems have him about 170-180 for this year, which is in between last year and 2017, which was very good (206 R + RBI). If you are assuming a repeat of last year or worse, you are definitely selling low. Then again, you seemed to get a fair return for him in MadBum. And having two big 1B like you do definitely does make him less valuable.
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Originally posted by Roy Hobbs View PostNot always getting a huge return for an aging player that could put up decent stats is sometimes the right play. Getting a player that can possibly help in a need area sometimes necessitates taking less for a player, but I don't consider losing Votto in this situation a big deal. Now if I traded for Bumgarner giving up someone in their prime and has great future years ahead of them, that would be whole different story. In dynasty leagues you obviously have to weigh today with the future and with Votto and Bumgarner, their best stats are behind both, maybe Bumgarner more than Votto for this year, but I do believe Bumgarner helps me to a title in 2019 more than Votto does. I guess I can't explain my motives any better than that.
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I agree that trading for Happ wasn't a good idea, glad I didn't. I floated many offers with Votto and posted that he was up for trade on the league message board. Like you said, Bumgarner was a decent return and he fits a need. I hope he has a great year in 2019 because I don't think he has many left (if any).
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