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**Teenwolf** · 04-01-2018, 03:41 PM

I like your farm picks for the most part. First 2 picks are great, Keibert Ruiz looks like a possible Buster Posey type, .300+ BA with 20 HR peak. Looks like a safe bet to become a top 5 NL catcher.

DJ Peters looks good, but I hate diving into the LAD OF market with so many viable prospects competing. I would also worry about trade risk. I had him further down.

Your tidbit about Hudson Potts was very interesting though, thanks for that. I had him on my list, but a bit lower than my late rounders, C. Tucker - SS - PIT, and J. Guzman - SP - MIA.

**pitbull** · 04-01-2018, 04:15 PM

Jesse, the one pick I liked on your team is Siri. If he had been year or two younger he would have gone much higher but he'll need to produce this at the next level. Those power/speed guys are always good to get.

**Hornsby** · 04-01-2018, 05:22 PM

I had the #1 pick overall and reached a bit for Ortiz...I just felt that playing it safe keeps you in the middle of the pack, and that's not where I want to be. Ortiz had BIG upside, but he's years away. I suspect that you'll see Gore in the majors before I see my guy. BTW, it really was between Gore and Ortiz for #1 overall, and nobody else was close for me. I just wanted the hitter more than the pitcher, but you have a very special player in Gore...hard to believe that he fell to #7, but people really want the bats in this league. Great base for you to start your re-build with...

**Teenwolf** · 04-01-2018, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by pitbull View Post

Jesse, the one pick I liked on your team is Siri. If he had been year or two younger he would have gone much higher but he'll need to produce this at the next level. Those power/speed guys are always good to get.

With power/speed guys, you hope they have the defense to make it work. Siri supposedly has a 70 arm, 65 run, 55 defense profile... but sometimes you read "70 raw" likely translating to 50 game power, but obviously upside for more... I know the caveat is that he was old for his level, but I guess that I like knowing he's more likely to be promoted quicker. I think if it comes together, there's only a few that can match his 30/30 potential. The K/BB isn't pretty, but the K rate itself isn't crazy, and he improved drastically over the previous season's A ball sample, so I feel like he needed to feel that full season success with one club. I like the makeup that his popup status shows, dealing with adversity through his first few years of struggling... It's definitely more of a longshot, but with a higher payout potential.

**Teenwolf** · 04-01-2018, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Hornsby View Post

I had the #1 pick overall and reached a bit for Ortiz...I just felt that playing it safe keeps you in the middle of the pack, and that's not where I want to be. Ortiz had BIG upside, but he's years away. I suspect that you'll see Gore in the majors before I see my guy. BTW, it really was between Gore and Ortiz for #1 overall, and nobody else was close for me. I just wanted the hitter more than the pitcher, but you have a very special player in Gore...hard to believe that he fell to #7, but people really want the bats in this league. Great base for you to start your re-build with...

I was a little bit surprised that you picked Jailyn Ortiz 1st overall... but I know your favourite "type". In fantasy baseball at least, you're not afraid to dip into the kiddie pool. You've grabbed every hot name 16 year old that I can remember in various leagues over the years.

The funniest one to me is Miguel Sano. Do you know what year exactly you drafted him, and you still own him to this date, right? I thought you drafted him when he was 16, meaning that this would be your 8th year owning him. Talk about a long-term asset!

I think it's a brilliant strategy, to be honest, and I've aimed to emulate that strategy myself. That's why I reached a bit for Akil Baddoo and Wander Franco, both 18, so not a ton of hype yet. I think I'll post an MSGL farm draft thread with thoughts... I get way more into prospect hunting than actual MLB players these days. It's a bad habit.

**frae** · 04-01-2018, 08:44 PM

I didn’t get a pick until pick 15 and you guys had taken any hitter i really wanted so the “value” seemed to be at pitcher. So with 3 of the next 7 picks I took Michel Baez, Ian Anderson, and Jon Duplantier. I had even tried swearing off pitchers but when I looked at the value I jumped back into chasing pitching. Oh well maybe one will hit.

**Hornsby** · 04-01-2018, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Teenwolf View Post

I was a little bit surprised that you picked Jailyn Ortiz 1st overall... but I know your favourite "type". In fantasy baseball at least, you're not afraid to dip into the kiddie pool. You've grabbed every hot name 16 year old that I can remember in various leagues over the years.

The funniest one to me is Miguel Sano. Do you know what year exactly you drafted him, and you still own him to this date, right? I thought you drafted him when he was 16, meaning that this would be your 8th year owning him. Talk about a long-term asset!

I think it's a brilliant strategy, to be honest, and I've aimed to emulate that strategy myself. That's why I reached a bit for Akil Baddoo and Wander Franco, both 18, so not a ton of hype yet. I think I'll post an MSGL farm draft thread with thoughts... I get way more into prospect hunting than actual MLB players these days. It's a bad habit.

LOL...yeah, I've had Sano forever. This is the year that he hits 50, right?

I do take a lot of kids, I guess that I value the potential over the stats arriving sooner. The one that I know I'm going to regret id dealing Vladdy Jr., twice. Different leagues of course, but he's going to be great.

I love Baddoo, he's a really advanced player with a ton of upside, same with Franco. Great picks Jesse...

**pitbull** · 04-02-2018, 08:32 AM

Way back I think in the 2nd yr of this league I took a player in my farm not even sure if he was my 1st pick. I recall one of the owners stating to me why are you taking a kid that will take several seasons to come up seems like a wasted pick. That kid I drafted was a very young 3B for the Marlins. His name was Miguel "Miggy" Cabrera.

**Teenwolf** · 04-02-2018, 09:23 AM

Originally posted by pitbull View Post

Way back I think in the 2nd yr of this league I took a player in my farm not even sure if he was my 1st pick. I recall one of the owners stating to me why are you taking a kid that will take several seasons to come up seems like a wasted pick. That kid I drafted was a very young 3B for the Marlins. His name was Miguel "Miggy" Cabrera.

I hear that... How did it feel watching Miggy move to the AL? I hate spending 2+ years holding a farm guy to watch him get traded out of the league, or only to deal him away and surrender those hold-years, while another owner reaps the benefits.

I feel like Gary Sanchez was a prospect for like 10 years, so it was pretty crazy to me that the guy who held him through several minor league years dealt him to me right before he graduated to the bigs. I don't know if the owner soured on Sanchez or what, but I would be kicking myself for YEARS if I did something like this... I used to hang onto marginal prospects out of a fear of someone else hitting on them. Now, I take pride in others drafting my castoffs, as they must see something that I did, and it validates my instincts to cut bait quicker to look for the next big thing.

**pitbull** · 04-02-2018, 09:33 PM

Originally posted by Teenwolf View Post

I hear that... How did it feel watching Miggy move to the AL? I hate spending 2+ years holding a farm guy to watch him get traded out of the league, or only to deal him away and surrender those hold-years, while another owner reaps the benefits.

I feel like Gary Sanchez was a prospect for like 10 years, so it was pretty crazy to me that the guy who held him through several minor league years dealt him to me right before he graduated to the bigs. I don't know if the owner soured on Sanchez or what, but I would be kicking myself for YEARS if I did something like this... I used to hang onto marginal prospects out of a fear of someone else hitting on them. Now, I take pride in others drafting my castoffs, as they must see something that I did, and it validates my instincts to cut bait quicker to look for the next big thing.

Actually he played 5 years with the Marlins so considering even if you signed him after 2 seasons it probably wouldn't have been for more than 3 years. I do think in a league where you have only 2-4 farm players yeah you probably want someone that is going to get to the majors faster. In a league like ours it make sense to go more towards rookie or low A ball as we have 10 farm.

**joncarlos** · 04-03-2018, 08:06 AM

The annual "draft a bunch of dudes I never heard of" fest. Up to 120 prospects being kept in an NL only league is a little nuts. I like Marcus Wilson and should have taken him instead of Burnes. I was hoping to get both of the Nats' 17 year olds in hopes of one of them working out, but Antuna went way early. Seeing who would have been available at my 1st pick made me feel less bad about trading it last season.

I added:

Corbin Burnes SP MIL
Luis Garcia SS WSH
Drew Waters OF ATL
Mark Vientos 3B NYM
Adbert Alzolay SP CHC

To my mediocre core of:
Walker Buehler SP LAD
Alex Blandino "SS" CIN
Tyrone Taylor OF MIL
Franklyn Kilome SP PHI

Blandino and Taylor are basically non prospects at this point but I didn't have enough picks to replace them anyway, so they stay for now in hopes of finding some magic beans this year. Maybe Blandino can be Scooter Gennett some day.

**gcstomp** · 04-03-2018, 08:49 AM

this years class was uninspiring, I opted for easy button of following a sickels list, or rhd on this site, as I could not muster enthusiasm to delve in 2018 farm. its easy when we have the 2012 baseball america top 100 class, led by blazing bright neon youngsters like trout, harper, machado, and also in top 25 were nolan arenado ,a rendon, a w myers. you kidding me? the argument is you need time to see the greatness, true, but even in 2012 it was clear that trout, harper, machado were the bees knees. btw jc, it is super early, but your team that went so heavy pitching is looking good. your pitching is unassailable.

**Hornsby** · 04-03-2018, 09:57 AM

I think that the biggest difference between 2012 and today is that there are multiple, and I mean multiple, sources that do a really fine job of scouting. I go through probably a half a dozen or more, just looking at lists and seeing who made them multiple times, and at what levels. And the Latin players are really heavily written up now, along with Cuban players being readily available. That also makes a huge difference in drafting players...you have a lot bigger chance of busting on a player, but at the same time, if he lives up to the scouts hype, you're ahead of the game.

**joncarlos** · 04-03-2018, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by gcstomp View Post

this years class was uninspiring, I opted for easy button of following a sickels list, or rhd on this site, as I could not muster enthusiasm to delve in 2018 farm. its easy when we have the 2012 baseball america top 100 class, led by blazing bright neon youngsters like trout, harper, machado, and also in top 25 were nolan arenado ,a rendon, a w myers. you kidding me? the argument is you need time to see the greatness, true, but even in 2012 it was clear that trout, harper, machado were the bees knees. btw jc, it is super early, but your team that went so heavy pitching is looking good. your pitching is unassailable.

DJ Lemahieu and Cory Spangenberg both on pace for about 50 HR. Sure that will keep up. How many crappy hitters on my team will outhomer my $37 Eric Hosmer? Plus that 1.88 team ERA is totally sustainable

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