Victor Robles

[fuhrdog]

In a 20 team H2H 5 x 5 Dynasty league with no salaries/round considerations...I need a 1B. What level of 1B would you need to move Robles? We only start 10 on offense so it isn't as deep as a normal 20 teamer but 500 players kept.

[Hornsby]

In a 20 team H2H 5 x 5 Dynasty league with no salaries/round considerations...I need a 1B. What level of 1B would you need to move Robles? We only start 10 on offense so it isn't as deep as a normal 20 teamer but 500 players kept.

I'd need a top 10 1st baseman, I assume that you mean MLB level, not minors? Robles is too important to deal for anything less.

[chancellor]

In a Dynasty league? A really study one. Jose Abreu level for me.

[BigJonEmpire]

I'd need a top 10 1st baseman, I assume that you mean MLB level, not minors? Robles is too important to deal for anything less.

Agreed.

[fuhrdog]

I'm not a Hosmer fan but was offered him and my choice of Gohara or Meadows. My only current 1B eligible guy is Jose Martinez.

[BigJonEmpire]

Unless you desperately need the first baseman, I'd probley still not do it. But I like Gohara.

[chancellor]

I'm not a Hosmer fan but was offered him and my choice of Gohara or Meadows. My only current 1B eligible guy is Jose Martinez.

Well, Gohara ain't chopped liver in a dynasty league. I like him, too. Say Hosmer has five good years left, and you have a strong SP for a while. Unless you think you can get a good 1B in the draft I'm a lot more inlined to take this deal

[fuhrdog]

Thanks fellas for all your comments...still thinking about it.

[Hornsby]

Hosmer just isn't that far ahead of Martinez, IMO. If Martinez gets 500 ab's, I'd bet that their stats aren't all that dissimilar.

[Hammer]

Hosmer just isn't that far ahead of Martinez, IMO. If Martinez gets 500 ab's, I'd bet that their stats aren't all that dissimilar.

I dont see Martinez coming close to 500 at bats. Tops out at 350. If you see 500 or so, tell me where.

[chancellor]

I dont see Martinez coming close to 500 at bats. Tops out at 350. If you see 500 or so, tell me where.

I was figuring 400, but we're pretty much on the same page for expected. However, he does have more upside than others in a similar situation - if Gyorko or Wong get hurt or suck (the latter, given past performance, is more likely for both), I can see Carpenter moved to 2B or 3B and Martinez given a legit shot at 1B.

But that's an iffy thing, and Hosmer is pretty much a sure thing.

[Hornsby]

I dont see Martinez coming close to 500 at bats. Tops out at 350. If you see 500 or so, tell me where.

I don't know, ask his manager who said that he's got the inside track to the starting job...

[Hammer]

I don't know, ask his manager who said that he's got the inside track to the starting job...

I tried him but he gave me a terse 'no comment'.

1B carpenter
2B Wong
SS DeJong
3B Gyorko

OF is full as well.

As for chancellor's upside thoughts, Martinez is 29 y/o and I view 2017 as more of an outlier for a guy with a career spanning 325 at bats at 29. I am not putting any eggs in the Martinez basket except for maybe an end game pickup.

[Ken]

As for chancellor's upside thoughts, Martinez is 29 y/o and I view 2017 as more of an outlier for a guy with a career spanning 325 at bats at 29. I am not putting any eggs in the Martinez basket except for maybe an end game pickup.

I tend to agree in the abstract with that line of thinking.

When Martinez was on last year though he was one of the hottest hitters in baseball. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that he's just a late bloomer.

And for a historical context his 2015 minor league numbers would back that up.

I don't know what to make of him honestly. Which version will we get, the 2015/2017 version? Or the 2016 version that had a .757 OPS in AAA?

[Hornsby]

I tried him but he gave me a terse 'no comment'.

1B carpenter
2B Wong
SS DeJong
3B Gyorko

OF is full as well.

As for chancellor's upside thoughts, Martinez is 29 y/o and I view 2017 as more of an outlier for a guy with a career spanning 325 at bats at 29. I am not putting any eggs in the Martinez basket except for maybe an end game pickup.

This is the rotowire depth chart:

First Base

1. Jose Martinez (R)

2. Luke Voit (R)

x. Matt Carpenter (L) OUT

Est. Return: March 1, 2018

3. Jedd Gyorko (R)

Cribbing from their write-up on Martinez:

A relative unknown entering 2017, Martinez burst onto the scene with 14 homers and an .897 OPS in 307 plate appearances last season. He's a Statcast darling, too; Martinez finished first in xBA, fifth in xwOBA and 17th in average exit velocity (min. 200 at-bats). It's understandable to be skeptical given the lack of pedigree and the fact that Martinez never hit more than 11 homers in a season while on the farm, but most advanced metrics suggest last year's power was real, and that he may just be scratching the surface