Matz or Manaea - ROS and next year

[swampdragon]

possible trade targets

Matz or Manaea for this year
wins should be about the same
Manaea more Ks but Matz better era! and ratio

and as a keeper
Manaea 12th round next year
Matz 22nd round next year

or just stay away from both

[joncarlos]

What are the odds that Matz throws 200 innings between now and the end of 2018? I'd like them more if it wasn't the Mets taking care of him. I like Manaea. I would take him. I think Matz is better on a per-IP basis. I am not sure Manaea is a super exciting keeper. But even if Matz throws 90 innings the rest of the way without breaking, are you still feeling great with him as a keeper?

[TranaGreg]

possible trade targets

Matz or Manaea for this year
wins should be about the same
Manaea more Ks but Matz better era! and ratio

and as a keeper
Manaea 12th round next year
Matz 22nd round next year

or just stay away from both

I think your analysis is spot on. My only question would be who has the higher upside. Maybe Manaea because of the Ks, but really neither is much of a deal at the spots you indicated.

[Sour Masher]

I think your analysis is spot on. My only question would be who has the higher upside. Maybe Manaea because of the Ks, but really neither is much of a deal at the spots you indicated.

I agree with you and joncarlos about the choice of Matz' health risk vs Manaea's greater reliability.

I do, however, think Matz has higher upside, and, if he stays healthy (big if), he would be a fantastic deal as a 22nd rounder. Depending on what I had to give, I'd target both, but Matz is the better upside target given the round difference.

[swampdragon]

I would be getting rid of my mostly bench player but super sub - Gyorko (15th round)
and my pitching staff stinks

[swampdragon]

and he does have a round 12 Pineda but I think the upside of a keeper in Matz makes the most sense

[Sour Masher]

and he does have a round 12 Pineda but I think the upside of a keeper in Matz makes the most sense

Yeah, I agree--Matz carries big risk, but if he finishes strong like he has the talent to do, I think that having him for a 22nd rounder is gonna be pretty good.

[chancellor]

Agree - for a 22nd rounder, I'd take Matz. That's a pretty good risk reward ratio, even if he is under the care of the Mets medical staff.

[Sharky]

Matz. I'm a Mets fan though. But have been watching him and love the upside.

[revo]

Agree - for a 22nd rounder, I'd take Matz. That's a pretty good risk reward ratio, even if he is under the care of the Mets medical staff.

Yeah. I agree with this. He has the talent to be a star, but the Mets also get frustrated that his injuries tend to linger. But for a 22nd rounder, how can you beat that?