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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gregg View Post
    I expect more from him than this.
    More than 20/20 from basically a rookie? Whoa...
    "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
      More than 20/20 from basically a rookie? Whoa...
      I expect him to have more sbs than 20. Closer to 30.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Gregg View Post
        I expect him to have more sbs than 20. Closer to 30.
        So you're thinking Dahl could be 20/30 in 2017? Or not as many HR?

        You do realize that exactly one player had at least 20/30 in 2015, Pollock. And Marte was 19/30
        "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Gregg View Post
          I expect him to have more sbs than 20. Closer to 30.
          If that is the case, then why would you consider trading him for a $16 Trevor Story?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Ryno84MVP View Post
            If that is the case, then why would you consider trading him for a $16 Trevor Story?
            Good question.

            As I mentioned I am too close to the situation. I was trying to gauge the general opinions of the board for Story against Dahl as a stand alone for general fantasy purposes.

            In my league dynamics I was planning on getting more than Story for Dahl in the form of a non keeper (too high of price). Then flipping that high priced player to a contender for another keeper. As it turned out that non keeper was traded before I made up my mind. I was still able to turn some of my fringe players into the other targeted keeper and still get to retain Dahl.

            So now I would rather have Dahl and the extra 11 bucks than Story. Plus it keeps my UT spot open (would have had to put Story in UT). The open UT spot is very valuable to my auction strategy.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
              So you're thinking Dahl could be 20/30 in 2017? Or not as many HR?

              You do realize that exactly one player had at least 20/30 in 2015, Pollock. And Marte was 19/30
              Yep, Pollack $21A is on my roster.

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              • #22
                Dahl is a great player, and Ii'm looking forward to seeing him in action in the majors, but to expect 30 sbs from him is unrealistic. He has never stolen more than 22 in a season in the minors, and while he is a 5 tool athlete with good speed, he does not have exceptional speed. 20/20 is a much more realistic expectation/hope. He is not an elite power or speed player, but he should put up across the board good numbers.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Sour Masher View Post
                  Dahl is a great player, and Ii'm looking forward to seeing him in action in the majors, but to expect 30 sbs from him is unrealistic. He has never stolen more than 22 in a season in the minors, and while he is a 5 tool athlete with good speed, he does not have exceptional speed. 20/20 is a much more realistic expectation/hope. He is not an elite power or speed player, but he should put up across the board good numbers.
                  2016-AA-13 hr and 16 sbs in 332 abs. 2015-22 sbs in 302 abs. He can steal 30.

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                  • #24
                    With all due respect gregg, you're nuts
                    "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                      2016-AA-13 hr and 16 sbs in 332 abs. 2015-22 sbs in 302 abs. He can steal 30.
                      Base stealing is easier in the minors for a variety of reasons. Most players' SB numbers do not transfer 1 to 1 in the majors. He may get close a couple of years, but I'd bet big and with confidence that he does not steal 30 next year, or ever.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sour Masher View Post
                        Base stealing is easier in the minors for a variety of reasons. Most players' SB numbers do not transfer 1 to 1 in the majors. He may get close a couple of years, but I'd bet big and with confidence that he does not steal 30 next year, or ever.
                        He is a lot lighter now without that pesky spleen to slow him down. 30 is in range.

                        You said "he may get close." Close is good. I wouldn't be disappointed if he had 17 hr and 26 or 28 sbs.

                        If he gets 125 abs this year (and I think he will) he will be $5 next year and the year after if I don't extend him. If he doesn't get 125 abs he is free next year (much preferred).

                        I understand he could be a bust and not even get me a profit. It is the nature of our game. Heck I am one that normally trades off rookies for more experienced vets. I traded Dahl twice in the last two years. This time I am going to keep him...I think.

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                        • #27
                          I like Dahl a lot. I think he is going to be a great player. I think he will be a 5 cat player. My only quible was 30sb projection. A 20/20 guy with high avg and good run and RBI totals is nothing to sneeze at.

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                          • #28
                            HR #2 today. And he ain't been to Coors yet.
                            "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                            • #29
                              Hitting machine!
                              "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                              • #30
                                10 game hit streak to start career.

                                More power than speed?
                                "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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