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  • #16
    Originally posted by revo View Post
    They based the rankings on their experts using an ELO matchup of players using their career stats and peak years. Some active notables:

    93 - Felix Hernandez
    92 - Adrian Beltre
    85 - Bryce Harper
    78 - David Ortiz
    65 - Ichiro Suzuki
    40 - Mike Trout
    39 - Miguel Cabrera
    31 - Albert Pujols
    26 - Clayton Kershaw
    21 - A-Rod

    Top 20 not released yet.....
    There's some poor choices in poor places on this list.
    Considering his only baseball post in the past year was bringing up a 3 year old thread to taunt Hornsby and he's never contributed a dime to our hatpass, perhaps?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by revo View Post
      Koufax finished 16th overall.
      two more years and Kershaw passes Koufax (assuming average Kershaw performance)
      "You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper

      "One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pitbull View Post
        Koufax turned into a great pitcher but that was only the last 6 seasons. The first 6 were very mediocre. In fact the first 7 seasons he did not have an ERA under 3. While he pitched great last 6 seasons I don't think that qualifies him in the top 20.
        don't confuse the public with facts!
        finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
        own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
        won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84

        SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
        RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
        C Stallings 2, Casali 1
        1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
        OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Judge Jude View Post
          don't confuse the public with facts!
          I'm so sorry thought I was reading ESPN Top 100 Players of All Time. Perhaps I should have just said Koufax threw fireballs that melted bats.

          Koufax.jpg

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          • #20
            if you adjust for Koufax's most fortunate-ever combo of pitcher's park + low-scoring environment, then that case could be made. Koufax 4-year peak has more oomph because far more IP, but Kershaw relative IP to peers is also relevant.
            finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
            own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
            won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84

            SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
            RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
            C Stallings 2, Casali 1
            1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
            OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1

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            • #21
              Originally posted by eldiablo505
              I think Kershaw has already passed Koufax, personally.
              In all but nickname, I agree.
              I'm just here for the baseball.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by eldiablo505
                I think Kershaw has already passed Koufax, personally.

                Anyone have a link to the whole list?
                I heard stories of Koufax from my grandfather so he has a special place in my heart. You are probably right, but I'm comfortable with Koufax still being above him at the moment, especially since there will be argument about it in a couple of more years. I don't mind Sandy continuing to keep the title for a little while longer. Kershaw is the guy I will be telling my grandkids about.

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