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  • #1

    Frustrated

    Being in two leagues where owner evaluation is no where close to each other is driving me batshit.

    Both leagues are similar and the owners for the most part savvy.

    However the variance in how they trade is mind-boggling in difference.

    I think it might drive me to drink...... Even more than I already do.
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  • #2
    Even seemingly small differences in league set up can alter player values. Is one league bigger than the other, does it allow for more or less keepers, more or less minor leaguers?

    I don't even bother posting some trade options for my long time 14 team mixed league, because with expanded rosters, 20 man minor leagues, 15 major league keepers, and a salary cap of $400, the value assigned to top tier prospects (because they can be kept longer, for relatively less than in most leagues) is so much higher than it is elsewhere, it would be hard for others to wrap their heads around it, unless they play in a dynasty league with large caps.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Hodor View Post
      Being in two leagues where owner evaluation is no where close to each other is driving me batshit.

      Both leagues are similar and the owners for the most part savvy.

      However the variance in how they trade is mind-boggling in difference.

      I think it might drive me to drink...... Even more than I already do.
      Is this just because I won't give you Pomeranz for cheap?

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      • #4
        the variance in RJEL alone is wide. some people find my hyper attitude to be over the top but i have little use waiting when many in the league wont make an offer at all. in the day of smart phones, you see what i am offering close to immediately. if you have an interst, express it. . valuations of plaers are always going to vary. nothing can be done about that. i will be told lowball offers are a starting point but if i get an offer thats not close i dont feel the need to counter or negotiate.
        After former Broncos quarterback Brian Griese sprained his ankle and said he was tripped on the stairs of his home by his golden retriever, Bella: “The dog stood up on his hind legs and gave him a push? You might want to get rid of that dog, or put him in the circus, one of the two.”

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ken View Post
          Is this just because I won't give you Pomeranz for cheap?
          You evaluate Drew fairly, those in RJEL need a chart or something other than their wits to glean his value. I used your charts and still got the same bullshit in return.

          yeah this won't get me much in the way of favor in dealing, but shit. I've watched some of these guys dump load for less than I've offered. makes me wonder if this is why Wayne bailed.................
          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
          Martin Luther King, Jr.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hammer View Post
            i will be told lowball offers are a starting point but if i get an offer thats not close i dont feel the need to counter or negotiate.
            Good point. I just say no thanks and move on.
            I'm just here for the baseball.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
              You evaluate Drew fairly, those in RJEL need a chart or something other than their wits to glean his value. I used your charts and still got the same bullshit in return.

              yeah this won't get me much in the way of favor in dealing, but shit. I've watched some of these guys dump load for less than I've offered. makes me wonder if this is why Wayne bailed.................
              I can say with 100% certainty that making offers, good or bad, is not why Wayne left, lol. I think he made like one or two trades in the 5 years he was in the league.


              Why don't you give us some examples of the offers you made that you're shocked were turned down?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by revo View Post
                I can say with 100% certainty that making offers, good or bad, is not why Wayne left, lol. I think he made like one or two trades in the 5 years he was in the league.


                Why don't you give us some examples of the offers you made that you're shocked were turned down?
                Well there was that one for Arenado for degrom and Famila
                If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                  You evaluate Drew fairly, those in RJEL need a chart or something other than their wits to glean his value. I used your charts and still got the same bullshit in return.

                  yeah this won't get me much in the way of favor in dealing, but shit. I've watched some of these guys dump load for less than I've offered. makes me wonder if this is why Wayne bailed.................
                  You still have yet to make me an offer this season...waiting patiently though.

                  And just what is a "fair" evaluation of Pomerantz? I'm curious...
                  "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                    Well there was that one for Arenado for degrom and Famila
                    Maybe this is why you're frustrated: your offer was actually for DeGrom and a 6A Bryant, and yeah, that's a terrible offer, lol!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Hornsby View Post
                      You still have yet to make me an offer this season...waiting patiently though.

                      And just what is a "fair" evaluation of Pomerantz? I'm curious...
                      I run things through a dollar value earned algorithm similar to those free ones on the net, not sharing mine, but it's pretty similar in results.

                      It contains the parameters for all my leagues and calculates earned dollar value for that league.

                      Pomerantz has earned $16 to date

                      Other earned amounts for my team are Nolan $34 Cano $32


                      I offered a $31 value player for a $16, was countered with choices of a $15 or a player in negative valueland.

                      But honestly it's not this deal that's made me itchy, it's the disparate evaluation of some owners vs other.

                      there ARE owners who deal fairly, but maybe I'm just tired of getting bushwhacked.

                      It's all good, just venting.
                      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
                      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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                      • #12
                        Can you name the $31 player and the two in the counter? Valuations this early in the season are kind of meaningless, so it would be far more helpful to know who they are -- so we know if there's any chance they'll keep up this pace or not.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                          I run things through a dollar value earned algorithm similar to those free ones on the net, not sharing mine, but it's pretty similar in results.

                          It contains the parameters for all my leagues and calculates earned dollar value for that league.

                          Pomerantz has earned $16 to date

                          Other earned amounts for my team are Nolan $34 Cano $32


                          I offered a $31 value player for a $16, was countered with choices of a $15 or a player in negative valueland.

                          But honestly it's not this deal that's made me itchy, it's the disparate evaluation of some owners vs other.

                          there ARE owners who deal fairly, but maybe I'm just tired of getting bushwhacked.

                          It's all good, just venting.
                          It is all nice a player has earned $30 to date but when trading, I only care about what I think the player might earn going forward. Not saying the trade was fair or unfair, just saying the other side might not have the high hopes for the future.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by wannabegriffey View Post
                            It is all nice a player has earned $30 to date but when trading, I only care about what I think the player might earn going forward. Not saying the trade was fair or unfair, just saying the other side might not have the high hopes for the future.
                            No doubt there would be regression on both players, including Pomerantz
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