Trade Advice

10-team, H2H league, standard 5x5 categories. I have been offered the following trade:

Give: McCutchen, J Upton, Chapman
Get: Miguel Cabrera, Greinke, Raisel Iglesias

I view Miggy and McCutchen as about equal, Greinke as an upgrade on JUp and Iglesias as a big downgrade on Chapman, especially in such a shallow league.

Thinking about just removing the Chapman/Iglesias part.

See below for my roster, appreciate anyone's thoughts. Thanks

C - Stephen Vogt
1B - David Ortiz (Yahoo league)
2B - Rougned Odor
3B - Josh Donaldson
SS - Marcus Semien
OF - Andrew McCutchen
OF - JD Martinez
OF - Justin Upton
Util - Lorenzo Cain
Util - Nomar Mazara
Bench - Evan Longoria (waiver add)
DL - Jung Ho Kang
DL - AJ Pollock (waiver flyer)

SP - Corey Kluber
SP - Carlos Carrasco
RP - Andrew Miller
RP - Roberto Osuna
P - Aroldis Chapman
P - Michael Wacha
P - Cole Hamels
P - Jose Quintana
P - Justin Verlander
P - Jeremy Jeffress
P - Kevin Jepsen

(Starting lineup uses 2 SPs, 2 RPs and 3 Ps)

[revo]

You could use the SP, so I could see doing your counter-offer. Is it daily lineup moves, or weekly?

[mjb887]

Daily lineup moves. Agree I could use the SP since the back end of the rotation is suspect, but also don't love trading bats for arms.

Also considering proposing something like LoCain + Osuna for Greinke instead.

[revo]

Yeah, you have 5 closers, so certainly one of them is expendable. If you could move Verlander in the deal, that would be optimal, because I can't see how he can stick in a 10-tm league.

[mjb887]

Well, Jepsen won't be the closer for too much longer and Miller/Chapman really count as one actual closer so it's more like 3.5, but I'm not married to chasing saves anyway.

And yes, I'd love to move Verlander. He's right on the edge of ownable but I've been keeping him given his upside/history/2nd half vs what's on the wire.

[chancellor]

The counter-offer works for me, but in a H2H league, there's no way I give up Chapman. That leaves your RPs as AMiller (as you've noted is likely out of a job when Chapman is back), Jeffress, Osuna, and Jepsen.

[mjb887]

The counter-offer works for me, but in a H2H league, there's no way I give up Chapman. That leaves your RPs as AMiller (as you've noted is likely out of a job when Chapman is back), Jeffress, Osuna, and Jepsen.

Do you think there's any chance he accepts that counter?

Here is his roster:

C - Matt Weiters
1B - Miguel Cabrera
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Corey Seager
OF - Carlos Gomez
OF - Gregory Polanco
OF - Adam Jones
Util - Hanley Ramirez
Util - Edwin Encarnacion

SP - Jose Fernandez
SP - Zack Greinke
RP - Jake McGee
RP - Luke Gregerson
P - Fernando Rodney
P - Jeanmar Gomez
P - Matt Moore
P - Drew Smyly
P - Raisel Iglesias
P - Jerad Eickhoff
P - Adam Wainwright
P - Mat Latos
DL - Yu Darvish
DL - Lance McCullers

He's said he's looking to shore up his OF and RP

[chancellor]

There's a chance - depends on how much he likes Greinke. To me, it's a pretty fair offer - Cutch and JUp are pretty high performing, low risk hitters that would be a major upgrade to his OF. He can spare Greinke, especially if he's a believer in Moore and Latos' comebacks. MCab has the highest upside, but I think he's a bit more risky than either Cutch or JUp. Greinke's a potential ace.

[mjb887]

Hmm, I like that initial offer for you. It's not a slam dunk but it's very reasonable. Of course, your counter without Chapman and Iglesias is far better for you.

Any chance you could land Fernandez instead of Greinke? Greinke makes me a little nervous this year.

He had initially offered Fernandez in another similar offer, but I told him I was less interested because it's a H2H league and I suspect Fernandez will not be pitching during our playoffs

[mjb887]

There's a chance - depends on how much he likes Greinke. To me, it's a pretty fair offer - Cutch and JUp are pretty high performing, low risk hitters that would be a major upgrade to his OF. He can spare Greinke, especially if he's a believer in Moore and Latos' comebacks. MCab has the highest upside, but I think he's a bit more risky than either Cutch or JUp. Greinke's a potential ace.

That's sort of where my head is at with Miggy = Cutch and Greinke >= Upton. If it were just Miggy/Greinke for Cutch/Upton, I'd be much more inclined to accept, but the Chapman/Iglesias part is a big discrepancy to me.

I also think there's just a premium on bats in a daily H2H league where I can just load up on bench arms and go for the counting stats (W, SV, K) and punt on ERA/WHIP in a specific playoff matchup.