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    We're into the 7th round if you're interested in the results. I believe we're only going 12 rounds deep on this

  • #2
    Correa fourth? Realistic or just some expert trying to make a name for themselves?

    How do you even draft for only 12 rounds? You're not building a team. You're not mapping out a strategy. You're just sticking random flags in the ground.

    Don't get me wrong - the more data points and discussions, the better, so I'm not complaining about the fact that people are doing it.

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    • #3
      Maybe it is due to his high floor, but McCutchen is over valued and drafted too high or commands too much money in an auction draft. Plenty of other players I would rather have than him in the first two rounds. Especially if he continues his lack of stealing bases.
      "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by joncarlos View Post
        Correa fourth? Realistic or just some expert trying to make a name for themselves?

        How do you even draft for only 12 rounds? You're not building a team. You're not mapping out a strategy. You're just sticking random flags in the ground.

        Don't get me wrong - the more data points and discussions, the better, so I'm not complaining about the fact that people are doing it.
        Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Moonlight J View Post
          We're into the 7th round if you're interested in the results. I believe we're only going 12 rounds deep on this
          Actually 10 rounds. We need to make sure we're done by opening day
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          • #6
            Originally posted by revo View Post
            Yeah, that's kind of ridiculous.
            Eh -- aggressive maybe, but not ridiculous. I'm personally not taking Correa unless I'm at the wheel but it's defensible to take him earlier. My concern is sustainable power (while it started in the minors last season, it's still only one season) and proving durability. But man, does he pass the eye test.

            Something to keep in mind is context. The convention is to be safe early and take chances later. This works in a lot of instances but if the person is a high stakes player, expect more chances early.

            That said, this pick was out of character for Ray as he's usually more conservative. But I promise there will be some NFBC drafts where Correa goes top-three.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Todd Zola View Post
              Eh -- aggressive maybe, but not ridiculous. I'm personally not taking Correa unless I'm at the wheel but it's defensible to take him earlier. My concern is sustainable power (while it started in the minors last season, it's still only one season) and proving durability. But man, does he pass the eye test.

              Something to keep in mind is context. The convention is to be safe early and take chances later. This works in a lot of instances but if the person is a high stakes player, expect more chances early.

              That said, this pick was out of character for Ray as he's usually more conservative. But I promise there will be some NFBC drafts where Correa goes top-three.
              Yeah, i think that he's a fair bet to go 25-25, and that's some rare air indeed. Remember that he's only 20 years old, and that he missed a good chunk of his age 19 season with a broken leg, IIRC. So the speed is actually a bit more of a surprise to me.
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              • #8
                Looking at the fantasy choices at SS, maybe #4 isn't too high for Correa?
                "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post
                  Looking at the fantasy choices at SS, maybe #4 isn't too high for Correa?
                  I personally don't take this into consideration but yeah, especially since Jose Reyes' situation is up in the air, Tulo is on turf for a year, Corey Seager is even more unproven, Lindor (like Correa) enjoyed a spike at the MLB level that may not persist and Bogaerts may not stick in the three-hole once Boston finishes their moves.
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                  • #10
                    I would have taken Correa at 6 if he made it to me

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by eldiablo505
                      In an "expert" draft, I feel like it's practically required to make a name for one's self and to plant random flags, as Jon Carlos notes. I'm not really sure what the value is, outside of, also as noted, providing more data points for reference.

                      Edit: It often seems to me that experts never get taken to task for their failures, while often touting their successes. I'm not sure how comprehensive this list is, but if you're interested in seeing which individuals or organizations tend to predict more accurately you might get some value out of this link: http://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/accuracy/
                      I have been saying this for 15 years.
                      "I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by eldiablo505
                        In an "expert" draft, I feel like it's practically required to make a name for one's self and to plant random flags, as Jon Carlos notes. I'm not really sure what the value is, outside of, also as noted, providing more data points for reference.

                        Edit: It often seems to me that experts never get taken to task for their failures, while often touting their successes. I'm not sure how comprehensive this list is, but if you're interested in seeing which individuals or organizations tend to predict more accurately you might get some value out of this link: http://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/accuracy/
                        Ha, kind of like in here.

                        I love it when an expert agrees with me. Even better I read some off the map comment in the preseason mags about a rookie and claim them for my own. Looky who I discovered. Woo hoo.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Gregg View Post
                          Ha, kind of like in here.

                          I love it when an expert agrees with me. Even better I read some off the map comment in the preseason mags about a rookie and claim them for my own. Looky who I discovered. Woo hoo.
                          Heh, there's a guy in the RJ staff league who isn't an Expert, but I'd back him in any high dollar league packed full of these experts............
                          If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

                          Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by eldiablo505
                            In an "expert" draft, I feel like it's practically required to make a name for one's self and to plant random flags, as Jon Carlos notes. I'm not really sure what the value is, outside of, also as noted, providing more data points for reference.

                            Edit: It often seems to me that experts never get taken to task for their failures, while often touting their successes. I'm not sure how comprehensive this list is, but if you're interested in seeing which individuals or organizations tend to predict more accurately you might get some value out of this link: http://www.fantasypros.com/mlb/accuracy/
                            I disagree. I hear plenty about my failures. People still bitch at me for rec'ing Homer Bailey last year & Homer Bailey this year while only a few thank me for telling them Mike Zunino was hot garbage to to run away from him in 2015 drafts.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by eldiablo505
                              If you hold yourself out as an expert to the public, you should be subject to scrutiny well beyond that given to someone who just posts on a message board. People are relying on your advice and when you screw up they're relying on your advice, which was put forth under the guise of expertise, to their detriment. I mean, does anyone even know who the most accurate "experts" are? Does anyone know what the most accurate prediction systems are? No? Why the hell not?
                              I have no problem calling out my failures and will usually do it myself.

                              As you showed Eld there is a "system" for tracking success but it shows that the BEST "expert" was not even 60% accurate....and that's terrible.

                              It appears that baseball is much higher.

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