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    One of the writers at Razzball suggested a new category of Wins + Quality Starts. I've always hated Wins but didn't see QS as much better, but combining them is such a great idea that I'm surprised no has thought of it sooner. Of course, CBS doesn't have it and likely won't for another 5 years or so but I'll be contacting them to request they add it. Anyone else love this idea?

    Look at how WQS is better than Wins for a fantasy pitching metric in 2015.
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    Originally posted by DMT View Post
    One of the writers at Razzball suggested a new category of Wins + Quality Starts. I've always hated Wins but didn't see QS as much better, but combining them is such a great idea that I'm surprised no has thought of it sooner. Of course, CBS doesn't have it and likely won't for another 5 years or so but I'll be contacting them to request they add it. Anyone else love this idea?

    http://razzball.com/wqs-cole-hamels-...omment-2347010
    Not true. My league began using it last season.

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    • #3
      Seems like you're double-counting the stat which would skew pitching stats a little more in SP's favor. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.

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      • #4
        This has been discussed on the Rotoworld forums for a while now.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wannabegriffey View Post
          Not true. My league began using it last season.
          I don't see it listed as a stat on CBS, what's it called?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hobbesmonkey View Post
            This has been discussed on the Rotoworld forums for a while now.
            Link?
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            • #7
              Not thrilled about it at all...both starts are very flawed, no reason to award a pitcher for a mediocre outing, IMO. And a 4.50 ERA is a very mediocre to bad outing in this day and age...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by overkill94 View Post
                Seems like you're double-counting the stat which would skew pitching stats a little more in SP's favor. Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
                This is true, but it will be more representative of their value and you won't have to worry as much drafting a great one only to have their value severely deflated because of bad luck or a terrible lineup. Also, I think RP values are inflated by projection systems; MRs rarely get drafted in my league yet most projections have a handful as rosterable due to great ratios.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Hornsby View Post
                  Not thrilled about it at all...both starts are very flawed, no reason to award a pitcher for a mediocre outing, IMO. And a 4.50 ERA is a very mediocre to bad outing in this day and age...
                  Also true, but that will be balanced out by the pitcher not getting the win. Looking at the table in the article, the biggest shifts in ranking were for players like Hamels, who I don't think anyone would argue was not one of the top SPs last season, and Wei-Yin Chen, who no one would argue was a top-10 SP despite having 16 wins.
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                  • #10
                    I think its a good idea and by combining W and QS in one cat, you dont have to worry about double counting like separate cats for AVG and OBP or HR and SLG. Both of those ideas were floated in my league. :|
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DMT View Post
                      Link?
                      It has been brought up in various threads. Sorry I cannot provide a single link for you.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DMT View Post
                        I'll be contacting them to request they add it.
                        you can add any custom stat in CBS - the fundamental building blocks for the stat just need to be available. my main league has several hand-crafted stats - we add HBP to WHIP, our relief category is S-BS+Ho/2, ...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bryanbutler View Post
                          you can add any custom stat in CBS - the fundamental building blocks for the stat just need to be available. my main league has several hand-crafted stats - we add HBP to WHIP, our relief category is S-BS+Ho/2, ...
                          Ah, thanks!
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DMT View Post
                            Ah, thanks!
                            yeah, many folks don't know this, because CBS doesn't make it easy to do, but if you follow the steps you can get there...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by bryanbutler View Post
                              yeah, many folks don't know this, because CBS doesn't make it easy to do, but if you follow the steps you can get there...
                              It wasn't difficult, but the 'create custom stat' was far down on the page so I didn't see it until I scrolled down. I gotta give props to CBS on this one since I generally only post complaints.
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