2015 Ottawa Triple Eh's keepers

[virgonomic]

14-Team / Mixed / 5x5 / H2H / 1C / Daily Tx

We draft 22 rounds. The first 4 rounds are mandatory keepers. The last 4 rounds are optional lifetime keepers, backfilled from round 22.

Keep 4:
C Martin
CI VMart Ortiz Beltre
MI Utley Reyes
OF Hunter Betts Gomez
SP Porcello Latos
RP KRod Reed Feliz Benoit

Keep up to 4, backfilled from round 22:
Strasburg Cobb RDavis Arcia

Teams have started 'blocking' dynasty keepers, drafting them in the 18th round (Corbin and Buxton last year), so getting a young stud can be a crap shoot. Archer and BHamilton were drafted there the year before.

Who do you like?

[revo]

Gomez
Beltre
VMart
Reyes

I'd keep all four lifetime keepers. Rajai is a maybe, but why not at that low cost.

[virgonomic]

I'd keep all four lifetime keepers. Rajai is a maybe, but why not at that low cost.

We do have daily Tx so Davis platooning doesn't hurt my roster (aside from the time to monitor the starting lineups).

The only issue with keeping all 4 late rounders is that I would not be able to pick up any younger dynasty keepers. Here is the first round from last year. Corbin and Buxton were picked in the 18th round. The owner who picked Buxton made a comment about not letting him slip to the 19th round.

1. Jameson Taillon (Pit - SP)
2. George Springer (Hou - OF)
3. Corey Hart (Pit - 1B,OF)
4. Oswaldo Arcia (Min - OF)
5. Avisail García (CWS - OF)
6. Archie Bradley (Ari - SP)
7. Carlos Correa (Hou - SS)
8. Neil Walker (Pit - 2B)
9. Maikel Franco (Phi - 3B)
10. Noah Syndergaard (NYM - SP)
11. Addison Russell (ChC - SS)
12. Devin Mesoraco (Cin - C)
13. Scooter Gennett (Mil - 2B)
14. Ángel Pagán (SF - OF)

[revo]

Yeah, if that's the case dump Rajai.

[virgonomic]

Looking for updated opinions. Keepers due this month. I rank them like this:

Gomez
VMart
Reyes
Ortiz
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Beltre

Ortiz is 1B which adds value. Beltre only hit 19 HR last year. At 35, will he rebound? His averages were on par with 2013.

Late round keepers:

19 RDavis
20 Arcia
21 Cobb
22 Strasburg

Inclined to throw back RDavis since rounds 19+ are dynasty keepers. I'm leaning towards keeping Arcia since he will likely be a 30 HR guy sooner than later. Will he take a step this year?

[virgonomic]

Gomez
VMart
Reyes
Ortiz
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Beltre

Does VMart's injury bump him out of my top 4? Would Hanley crack it?

[chancellor]

Gomez
VMart
Reyes
Ortiz
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Beltre

Does VMart's injury bump him out of my top 4? Would Hanley crack it?

I'd put Hanley in place of VMart, and very tempted to put Beltre in front of him. I know VMart's injury sounds routine, but knee surgeries at his age...I just don't know.

With your rules, I'd definitely throw Rajai away.

[virgonomic]

I would have preferred Hanley even before this injury so, yeah, easily Hanley now.

Now for the catch...his asking price is

Strasburg (dynasty keeper)
for
Hanley and Archer (dynasty keeper)

I'd need to be overwhelmed to move Stras, and I'm not. Other players he has: Posey, CSantana, Seager, ARussell (dynasty)

Are there two players above worth trading Stras for? 3 players?

He said he doesn't think he could trade both Posey and Russell, but he tried to get Stras a year ago, so if I bargain hard he will probably meet my price as only Russell would be a keeper for him (he has Felix/Kluber/Trout/Rendon).

[virgonomic]

Are you saying you can get both Hanley and Posey for Stras? That's a no-brainer, imo. Hanley and Archer isn't a bad offer either, honestly, but clearly not at the same level of Posey/Hanley.

I'm pretty sure he would do that. It is a 1C league though. 2 years ago I traded Posey for a draft pick upgrade, so in this league he doesn't have a ton of value in the offseason.

Also, Stras is a dynasty keeper (lifetime, late round) and the others are regular keepers.

[chancellor]

Under how I think your rules work, I know I wouldn't Hanley/Archer for Stras, since in order to keep Archer, you'll have to cut Ortiz. Even the same for Posey and Hanley - on the surface, it's great, but what you're really doing is giving up Stras and Ortiz for Hanley and Posey, with Stras being a lifetime keeper.

Do I have that right?

[virgonomic]

Under how I think your rules work, I know I wouldn't Hanley/Archer for Stras, since in order to keep Archer, you'll have to cut Ortiz. Even the same for Posey and Hanley - on the surface, it's great, but what you're really doing is giving up Stras and Ortiz for Hanley and Posey, with Stras being a lifetime keeper.

Do I have that right?

Not quite. Archer is a lifetime keeper so he would replace Stras in the late rounds.

So, after the trade, I'd be looking at:

1 Gomez
2 Hanley
3 Posey
4 Ortiz/Beltre/Reyes

19 -
20 Arcia (?)
21 Archer/Russell
22 Cobb

I prefer Russell to Archer, and I think Posey/Hanley/Russell is the package I should ask for. I do like to have a C/1B guy to move around as we have daily Tx, so Posey has some added value.

[Gregg]

Not quite. Archer is a lifetime keeper so he would replace Stras in the late rounds.

So, after the trade, I'd be looking at:

1 Gomez
2 Hanley
3 Posey
4 Ortiz/Beltre/Reyes

19 -
20 Arcia (?)
21 Archer/Russell
22 Cobb

I prefer Russell to Archer, and I think Posey/Hanley/Russell is the package I should ask for. I do like to have a C/1B guy to move around as we have daily Tx, so Posey has some added value.

I am not sure I like this line up better than the one before the trade.

[virgonomic]

What if it was Hanley/Kluber instead of Hanley/Posey?

Is Archer or Russell the better late round dynasty keeper?

1 Gomez
2 Hanley
3 Kluber
4 Ortiz/Beltre/Reyes

19 -
20 Arcia (?)
21 Archer/Russell
22 Cobb

[virgonomic]

BUMP - does getting Kluber make this worth considering?

[Pogues]

I'd keep Kluber over any of that #4 slot, due to age and all. Caveat: I'm and Indians fan and might be of on my judgment of Kluber.