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Originally posted by madducks View PostHe's not even the highest paid player on his team.
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Obviously, baseball is in horrible financial straights. Barely able to squeak by...
Yeah, good luck playing THAT card next year in the upcoming labor dispute. And remember, San Diego is considered a small market. I'll bet the other owners are livid right about now..."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostHa, still a great deal for him. If he invests even half the extra money he is getting on the front end of this deal, by the end of the contract, he will be well ahead of where he would have been if he waited for FA and signed essentially the same deal for 3-4 less years.2021 Auction Anatomy
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Originally posted by chancellor View Post$25ish mil a year...a steal for a player of his talent2021 Auction Anatomy
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Originally posted by ThatRogue View PostAgreed. Once again, the owners make out like bandits. The overall money is incredible in the context of “normal people”...but he’s probably leaving a lot of money on the table.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostObviously, baseball is in horrible financial straights. Barely able to squeak by...
Yeah, good luck playing THAT card next year in the upcoming labor dispute. And remember, San Diego is considered a small market. I'll bet the other owners are livid right about now...
OTOH, I agree with Sour Masher that it's a great deal for Tatis, jr. too.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostInteresting - I came to the exact opposite conclusion and that agents were gonna be PO'd since the owners will point to a guy with Trout-level talent getting $25 mil/year instead of $40-45 mil/year. It not only impacts FA contracts, but also arbitration values.
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Originally posted by ThatRogue View PostAgreed. Once again, the owners make out like bandits. The overall money is incredible in the context of “normal people”...but he’s probably leaving a lot of money on the table.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostAgree per money on the table, though in my IPA contemplations last night, I realized it's less than I thought. Revo, being the financial wizard on the board, can do the math better than I can, but Tatis will get somewhere from $50-80 mil more in the next three years than he would have, and that can come with a pretty big time value of money with it if he's smart about putting a chunk of that away.2021 Auction Anatomy
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostMaybe, but it is close and a hell of a lot better than Acuna's awful deal. Unlike Acuna, I doubt Tatis ends up regretting this deal.
2021: $500K (final pre-arb season)
2022: $12M
2023: $20M
2024: $28M (final arb season)
2025 - 2034: $35 million per season for 10 seasons (via free agency)
Total: $410.5M (which may be slightly conservative seeing as how Trout received $426.5)
Thus, Tatis has probably left $70 - $100 million dollars on the table. Even billionaires believe that's a lot of money, so to a brand new millionaire...that's definitely significant.2021 Auction Anatomy
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Originally posted by ThatRogue View PostLast season, Bellinger received $11.5 million in his first year of arbitration (the record). Arenado set the overall arbitration record with a $26 million dollar deal in his final year. So let's assume the following:
2021: $500K (final pre-arb season)
2022: $12M
2023: $20M
2024: $28M (final arb season)
2025 - 2034: $35 million per season for 10 seasons (via free agency)
Total: $410.5M (which may be slightly conservative seeing as how Trout received $426.5)
Thus, Tatis has probably left $70 - $100 million dollars on the table. Even billionaires believe that's a lot of money, so to a brand new millionaire...that's definitely significant.
Seems about right.
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Originally posted by Ken View PostYour $70-$100m deficit is the combination of injury risk, market risk, and decreased performance risk along with net present value of money. Consider that the $10m signing bonus alone is worth ~$20m in 14 years.
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