AL ROY--Who's Next?

[onejayhawk]

Since Abreu put up MVP type numbers as a rookie, there has been little discussion about the RoY in the AL.Who would you pick of the next five?

Player	I	TEAM	POS	G	AB	R	H	HR	RBI	BB	SO	SB	CS	AVG	OBP	SLG	OPS
Bogaerts	 BOS	SS	144	538	60	129	12	46	39	138	2	3	0.240	0.297	0.362	0.660
Castellanos	 DET	3B	148	533	50	138	11	66	36	140	2	2	0.259	0.306	0.394	0.700
Holt	 B	BOS	3B	106	449	68	126	4	29	33	98	12	2	0.281	0.331	0.381	0.711
Santana	 D	MIN	SS	101	405	70	129	7	40	19	98	20	4	0.319	0.353	0.472	0.824
Odor	 R	TEX	2B	114	386	39	100	9	48	17	71	4	7	0.259	0.297	0.402	0.698

Note these are all "glove" positions. I would lean to Santana.

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[revo]

Do you mean by "who's next" as to who would finish second? If so, Masahiro Tanaka.

[Kevin Seitzer]

Collin McHugh

2.73 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 155 innings, 157 strikeouts

[Hornsby]

No, Danny Santana should be the choice...played both SS and CF and played both well. Hit over .300, stole 20 bags as well. Also had a little pop in his bat...

But I agree with Revo...Tanaka is the obvious choice despite the missing time.

[revo]

Collin McHugh

2.73 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 155 innings, 157 strikeouts

Was he considered a rookie? He had 47 IP, but did he have the service time? If he is a rookie, yeah, he should be up there.

[Kevin Seitzer]

Was he considered a rookie? He had 47 IP, but did he have the service time? If he is a rookie, yeah, he should be up there.

He was a rookie. He had 47.1 innings and 27 days on the active roster during the period of 25-player limit coming into the 2014 season. He also spent most of September 2012 and September 2013 in the majors, but that service time doesn't count against the rookie limit.

Determining rookie status:
A player shall be considered a rookie unless, during a previous season or seasons, he has (a) exceeded 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the Major Leagues; or (b) accumulated more than 45 days on the active roster of a Major League club or clubs during the period of 25-player limit (excluding time in the military service and time on the disabled list).

[Kevin Seitzer]

Here's the official list of 2014 rookies from MLB:

Player, Rookie Milestone Date
Charlie Culberson, Mar 30
Pedro Figueroa, Apr 2
Maikel Cleto, Apr 2
Tony Sanchez, Apr 6
Ryan Goins, Apr 6
Jackie Bradley Jr., Apr 9
Tuffy Gosewisch, Apr 10
Cesar Hernandez, Apr 11
Chad Bettis, Apr 12
Mike Olt, Apr 13
Vidal Nuno, Apr 13
Jeurys Familia, Apr 14
Travis d'Arnaud, Apr 15
Juan Perez, Apr 15
Abraham Almonte, Apr 18
Jake Odorizzi, Apr 18
Marcus Semien, Apr 18
Aaron Poreda, Apr 19
Rob Wooten, Apr 21
Brock Holt, Apr 21
Collin McHugh, Apr 24
Josmil Pinto, Apr 27
Sandy Leon, Apr 27
Jose Dominguez, Apr 27
Kolten Wong, Apr 27
Nick Maronde, Apr 29
Xander Bogaerts, Apr 29
Chris Owings, Apr 30
Dellin Betances, May 1
Jake Petricka, May 3
Brandon Guyer, May 5
Nick Christiani, May 5
Neftali Soto, May 6
Jake Dunning, May 6
Yordano Ventura, May 7
Jose Abreu, May 8
Brian Schlitter, May 9
C.C. Lee, May 11
Alfredo Marte, May 12
Mario Hollands, May 13
Ehire Adrianza, May 13
Daniel Webb, May 13
David Hale, May 13
Adrian Nieto, May 13
Michael Choice, May 13
Donn Roach, May 13
Tommy Kahnle, May 13
Billy Hamilton, May 13
Nick Castellanos, May 13
Jonathan Schoop, May 13
Stefen Romero, May 13
Roenis Elias, May 13
Wei-Chung Wang, May 13
Masahiro Tanaka, May 13
Luis Jimenez, May 14
Josh Zeid, May 15
Zach Putnam, May 15
Yangervis Solarte, May 15
Sam Freeman, May 16
Michael Tonkin, May 16
Kevin Gausman, May 16
Dominic Leone, May 18
Ian Thomas, May 19
Wilmer Flores, May 22
Aaron Barrett, May 23
Zoilo Almonte, May 25
George Springer, May 27
John Ryan Murphy, May 29
Kevin Pillar, Jun 1
Brandon Cumpton, Jun 2
Trevor Bauer, Jun 2
Nick Martinez, Jun 4
Michael Mariot, Jun 6
Neil Ramirez, Jun 7
Scott Carroll, Jun 10
Tommy Medica, Jun 10
Mike Morin, Jun 10
Ender Inciarte, Jun 11
Luis Sardinas, Jun 13
James Jones, Jun 14
Josh Stinson, Jun 15
Matt Shoemaker, Jun 15
Ethan Martin, Jun 16
Danny Santana, Jun 16
C.J. Cron, Jun 16
Daniel Robertson, Jun 17
Chase Anderson, Jun 19
Evan Marshall, Jun 19
Caleb Joseph, Jun 20
Jake Marisnick, Jun 20
Roger Kieschnick, Jun 21
Stolmy Pimentel, Jun 21
Rougned Odor, Jun 21
Cory Rasmus, Jun 22
Eric Campbell, Jun 23
Kevin Quackenbush, Jun 24
Carlos Triunfel, Jun 25
Jacob deGrom, Jun 26
Chase Whitley, Jun 28
Vic Black, Jun 29
Marcus Stroman, Jun 29
Kevin Kiermaier, Jul 4
David Buchanan, Jul 7
Mike Bolsinger, Jul 9
Tommy La Stella, Jul 10
David Peralta, Jul 14
Jon Singleton, Jul 14
Shae Simmons, Jul 14
Eury De La Rosa, Jul 17
Eugenio Suarez, Jul 18
Miguel Rojas, Jul 20
Gregory Polanco, Jul 20
Jace Peterson, Jul 20
Kirby Yates, Jul 21
Kyle Crockett, Jul 21
Sam Dyson, Jul 22
T.J. House, Jul 22
Ken Giles, Jul 22
Jeff Beliveau, Jul 23
Cole Figueroa, Jul 24
Tyler Matzek, Jul 25
Zach Walters, Jul 25
Blaine Hardy, Jul 29
Jesse Hahn, Aug 1
Oscar Taveras, Aug 1
Matt Stites, Aug 2
Jumbo Diaz, Aug 3
Joe Panik, Aug 4
Efren Navarro, Aug 4
Carlos Contreras, Aug 5
Eric Surkamp, Aug 6
Tommy Layne, Aug 6
Odrisamer Despaigne, Aug 6
Jesus Sucre, Aug 7
Yohan Pino, Aug 9
Kristopher Negron, Aug 10
Shane Greene, Aug 12
Jim Adduci, Aug 14
Nick Greenwood, Aug 14
James Paxton, Aug 17
Kevin Chapman, Aug 17
Jimmy Nelson, Aug 17
Arismendy Alcantara, Aug 17
Allen Webster, Aug 18
Jose Ramirez, Aug 18
Jake Goebbert, Aug 19
Roman Mendez, Aug 20
Kyuji Fujikawa, Aug 20
Roberto Perez, Aug 21
Christian Vazquez, Aug 22
Matt den Dekker, Aug 22
Jake Buchanan, Aug 24
Yoslan Herrera, Aug 28
Kyle Hendricks, Aug 31
Tsuyoshi Wada, Sep 1
Kennys Vargas, Sep 5
Javier Baez, Sep 8
Mookie Betts, Sep 14
Yohan Flande, Sep 20
Taijuan Walker, Sep 26
Phil Gosselin, Sep 28
Chris Taylor, Sep 29
Christian Bergman, Sep 30

[madducks]

Collin McHugh

2.73 ERA, 1.02 WHIP, 155 innings, 157 strikeouts

How about waiver pickup of the year? Nice job on that one Mike. I'm anxiously awaiting the Stros next waiver claim. No pressure lol. Glad i scooped him up in my league.

[Kevin Seitzer]

I'm anxiously awaiting the Stros next waiver claim. No pressure lol.

If only it were that easy.

[revo]

Ventura and Odorizzi have to be given consideration for votes as well as McHugh.

I'd go:
1- Abreu
2- Tanaka
3- Ventura
4- McHugh
5- Santana/Odorizzi

[Kevin Seitzer]

I would think Betances merits some consideration, too.

[Kevin Seitzer]

Ventura and Odorizzi have to be given consideration for votes as well as McHugh.

I'd go:
1- Abreu
2- Tanaka
3- Ventura
4- McHugh
5- Santana/Odorizzi

I'm curious why you'd rank Tanaka (or Ventura, for that matter) ahead of McHugh. Pretty much the only thing that Tanaka did better was the W-L record, which can mostly be attributed to the run support that he got and McHugh didn't.

I think my ballot would be
1. Abreu
2. McHugh
3. Betances
4. Ventura
5. Tanaka

[revo]

I would think Betances merits some consideration, too.

Um, oh yeah. He was amazing. I think he'll finish 4th or 5th. Good class of rooks this year in the AL (even if Abreu and Tanaka weren't exactly rookies).

[revo]

I'm curious why you'd rank Tanaka (or Ventura, for that matter) ahead of McHugh. Pretty much the only thing that Tanaka did better was the W-L record, which can mostly be attributed to the run support that he got and McHugh didn't.

I think my ballot would be
1. Abreu
2. McHugh
3. Betances
4. Ventura
5. Tanaka

Tanaka was arguably the best pitcher in the AL over the time he was healthy, and Ventura contributed mightily to a team that made the playoffs. I think both have a big edge over McHugh, who (unfortunately) was pitching with no real meaning on the line at any time this season. I realize the ROTY award usually doesn't take that into account, but when it does, it should matter to those who did.

[revo]

Abreu, Betances & Shoemaker named the three finalists. I guess we all forgot about Shoemaker, who went 16-4 with a 3.07 ERA and 1.04 WHIP.