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  • #16
    Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
    I was reading thru a twitter thread and someone mentioned Dolly Parton has an outstanding reading program. did not know that.
    She has done a lot of charity work, I believe.

    And Melinda Gates has done a lot for the status of women around the globe, through the Gates Foundation.

    Simone and Serena are obviously well-known for their athletic accomplishments, but they have broken a lot of race boundaries. And Simone Biles was one of the leaders in exposing the abuse culture in USA Gymnastics.

    This thread is actually kind of encouraging to be reminded that there are a lot of admirable Americans. Maybe aspiring to "greatest" was never a healthy way to look at it, but I do think it can be helpful to have role models and heroes.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
      Barack Obama? Bernie Sanders?

      Lin Manuel Miranda?

      Most of the great civil rights leaders have passed. Most recently John Lewis. Are any of them still living?
      Obama was the first person that i thought of. But, then i remembered that half of the country hates him.
      “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

      ― Albert Einstein

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
        If I had to, I'd say Jimmy Carter.
        Carter was my gut reaction as well.
        I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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        • #19
          Fred Rogers and Ruth Bader Ginsburg are two other candidates for this "crown" who we recently lost.
          "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
            She has done a lot of charity work, I believe.

            And Melinda Gates has done a lot for the status of women around the globe, through the Gates Foundation.

            Simone and Serena are obviously well-known for their athletic accomplishments, but they have broken a lot of race boundaries. And Simone Biles was one of the leaders in exposing the abuse culture in USA Gymnastics.

            This thread is actually kind of encouraging to be reminded that there are a lot of admirable Americans. Maybe aspiring to "greatest" was never a healthy way to look at it, but I do think it can be helpful to have role models and heroes.
            Melinda Gates is an interesting candidate. How much of the Gates foundation is based upon her desires vs Bill, who has some questionable aspects to his candidacy. I had a brief interaction with both of them as our dogs were sniffing butts after a kids soccer game, but I won't let that cloud my judgement either way.

            EDIT: interesting to think about, but maybe more practical to applaud people for their positive accomplishments and hold them accountable for when they fall short.
            Last edited by The Feral Slasher; 09-09-2022, 01:36 PM.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
              Fred Rogers and Ruth Bader Ginsburg are two other candidates for this "crown" who we recently lost.
              And Betty White

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              • #22
                Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                maybe something to do with rejecting the idea of a monarchy and the associated wealth and privilege in the 21st century ?
                I was just saying last night, this seems like a great opportunity to end it. Okay, that was all swell, but let's not continue this tom-foolery.
                I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                • #23
                  I mean, I guess we can debate this until a time when Joel Embiid applies for US citizenship.
                  I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by heyelander View Post
                    I was just saying last night, this seems like a great opportunity to just end it. Okay, that was all swell, but let's not continue this tom-foolery.
                    yeah, the whole concept is ridiculous, but it aligns perfectly with our celebrity-loving culture.
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                    The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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                    • #25
                      A Carnegie Mellon University professor is under fire for a social media post.

                      Professor Uju Anya posted the following tweet, which has since been removed by Twitter:

                      “I heard the chief monarch of a thieving raping genocidal empire is finally dying. May her pain be excruciating.”

                      She then followed up with another tweet:

                      If anyone expects me to express anything but disdain for the monarch who supervised a government that sponsored the genocide that massacred and displaced half my family and the consequences of which those alive today are still trying to overcome, you can keep wishing upon a star.

                      - Uju Anya (@UjuAnya) September 8, 2022
                      “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

                      ― Albert Einstein

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by madducks View Post
                        A Carnegie Mellon University professor is under fire for a social media post.

                        Professor Uju Anya posted the following tweet, which has since been removed by Twitter:

                        “I heard the chief monarch of a thieving raping genocidal empire is finally dying. May her pain be excruciating.”

                        She then followed up with another tweet:

                        If anyone expects me to express anything but disdain for the monarch who supervised a government that sponsored the genocide that massacred and displaced half my family and the consequences of which those alive today are still trying to overcome, you can keep wishing upon a star.

                        — Uju Anya (@UjuAnya)
                        saw that this morning. I am somewhat ambivalent about the post. Certainly not horrified, no pearl clutching on my part
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                        Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                        The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                        George Orwell, 1984

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                          saw that this morning. I am somewhat ambivalent about the post. Certainly not horrified, no pearl clutching on my part
                          wow, did I break the formatting
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                          Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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                          The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                          George Orwell, 1984

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
                            wow, did I break the formatting
                            it was broken yes, but I fixed it... I think

                            Quoting a post with a tweet it in may not work well, not sure

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Ken View Post
                              it was broken yes, but I fixed it... I think

                              Quoting a post with a tweet it in may not work well, not sure
                              fuckin' feral... am I right?
                              I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by heyelander View Post
                                fuckin' feral... am I right?
                                that dude is an ass....or is he a great American ?
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                                The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
                                George Orwell, 1984

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