View Poll Results: Is Jon Lester a HOFer?

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Thread: Is Jon Lester a HOFer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancellor View Post
    I voted no only because, "Oh, HELL NO" was not an option.
    Better than O HELL NO but still no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    BTW, here's Hall of Famer Jack Morris:
    254-186
    3.90 ERA
    108 ERA+
    1.296 WHIP
    2478 K
    5 Top 5 finishes for Cy Young
    12 15+ win seasons

    never led the league in ERA or WHIP
    1x K leader (1983)
    2x Wins leader (1981, 1992)
    He's just not a good addition to the HoF at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bene Futuis View Post
    He's just not a good addition to the HoF at all.
    I agree. But, if Morris is the new baseline, then Lester should get more consideration than many believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    I agree. But, if Morris is the new baseline, then Lester should get more consideration than many believe.
    Not that it matters what I think, but I consider Morris an exception and not a baseline. I don't agree with the "if this person got in then this person should" line of thinking. Each player should be compared to the whole of HoF, not to the least, and evaluated based on that comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Not that it matters what I think, but I consider Morris an exception and not a baseline. I don't agree with the "if this person got in then this person should" line of thinking. Each player should be compared to the whole of HoF, not to the least, and evaluated based on that comparison.
    I agree.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    I agree. But, if Morris is the new baseline, then Lester should get more consideration than many believe.
    One really bad decision should not beget another.
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    OK, how about new HOFer Jim Kaat?

    283-237
    3.45 ERA
    108 ERA+
    1.259 WHIP
    2461 K
    1x Top 5 Cy Young
    1x Wins leader (1965)
    2x BB/9 leader

    My point is, Lester isn't too far off. He might not get in, but he'll probably sit on the ballot for a number of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revo View Post
    OK, how about new HOFer Jim Kaat?

    283-237
    3.45 ERA
    108 ERA+
    1.259 WHIP
    2461 K
    1x Top 5 Cy Young
    1x Wins leader (1965)
    2x BB/9 leader

    My point is, Lester isn't too far off. He might not get in, but he'll probably sit on the ballot for a number of years.
    Kaat doesn't seem like a HOF pitcher based on quality. He has a longevity (and Twins icon) argument that centers around 4530 innings pitched (18th among post-1900 pitchers) and 283 wins.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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    There is some talk of the Cubs retiring his number. I would be in favor of that.

    He is very good, HOF a bit short.

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    I expect Lester will get enough votes to surpass the 5% threshold to stay on the ballot. But I also don't expect him to get anywhere close to 75% support necessary for induction.
    "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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