18-team mixed, 5x5 w/OBP instead of BA: $6 Margot for $10 Madrigal?
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Originally posted by chancellor View Post18-team mixed, 5x5 w/OBP instead of BA: $6 Margot for $10 Madrigal?If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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risk / reward - I have a hard time seeing Madrigal being worth much more than 10 at season's end ... Margot could be worth more than 6, but I just checked his numbers from last year, 464 ABs and pretty mediocre ... ok, I convinced myself, I'm on the Madrigal side tooIt certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.
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It may depend on what you need, but in your league, Madrigal is going to be a huge OBP boost whereas Margot will be an OBP drain. I'd take Madrigal's 2B eligibility + OBP over Margot's slightly better HR power and a few more SBs. It's close though.
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When the Rays deal Kiermaier this winter/spring, Margot is the immediate benefitiary until the servcie time of Josh Lowe is sufficiently stalled or Vidal Brujan takes off. Margot has Cash's full confidence in stealing bases and has OBP skills enough where a jump in PT helps his primary skill (steals).
I'm not convinced Madrigal can hit enough at the big league level because there just isn't much juice in his swing. He's not Craig Grebeck, but he's closer to that than the next Dustin Pedroia IMO.
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Originally posted by Moonlight J View PostWhen the Rays deal Kiermaier this winter/spring, Margot is the immediate benefitiary until the servcie time of Josh Lowe is sufficiently stalled or Vidal Brujan takes off. Margot has Cash's full confidence in stealing bases and has OBP skills enough where a jump in PT helps his primary skill (steals).
...It certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.
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Originally posted by TranaGreg View PostI want to like Margot, I really do, but 13 SBs last season in 464 ABs, and his career best is 20 just doesn't scream breakout potential ... mind you he's only 27 so it's possible, again, it's a classic risk / reward thing
What's the reward for a $10 Madrigal though?
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Originally posted by Ken View PostI agree.
What's the reward for a $10 Madrigal though?More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.
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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostA .330 BA with 15-20 SBs out of a middle infield spot in a really good lineup? I mean, the dude was a highly regarded prospect.
Even in a good lineup he gets what, 50 RBI?
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Originally posted by Ken View PostHe had 3 SB and 3 CS in 324 career PA before tearing his hamstring. 15-20 SB sounds like a pipe dream not an upside.
Even in a good lineup he gets what, 50 RBI?More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.
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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostHe stole 35 in the minors the year before. I'm not a huge fan, just bigger than for Margot who I'm not sure deserves to be in the majors.
I hear what you're saying on speed, but I'd like to see a few steals before calling him more than a 1 category player.
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