What to do with deGrom?

[Ken]

Interesting, I'll have to give it some more thought, but most of the aces are locked up so he's going to draw heavy interest. Last year he went for $50 and several owners were grumbling about not bidding more.

1st throw is always cheaper than it should be, you would want to wait until a couple other names get out there and prices come up to normal levels.

[Gregg]

What's your league's inflation?

I would say about 20-25% but we can't count on it for individual players.

What service do you use to establish base value?

[Ken]

I would say about 20-25% but we can't count on it for individual players.

You're mixing price with value when you say can't count on it. What a player will end up costing isn't the question, it's what he's worth (or, at minimum, what you are projecting that he's worth).

What service do you use to establish base value?

Numerous services, mostly my own data analysis based on the big projection systems. But they all end up in the same general range the majority of the time.

[Bene Futuis]

1st throw is always cheaper than it should be, you would want to wait until a couple other names get out there and prices come up to normal levels.

I don't think that's the case anymore in experienced leagues, or at least not close to always. DeGrom may be an exception because I imagine there is going to be a lot of hesitancy in bidding him way up (and for good reason, imo). Hard to gauge what's "cheap" for DeGrom, honestly.

[Ken]

I don't think that's the case anymore in experienced leagues, or at least not close to always. DeGrom may be an exception because I imagine there is going to be a lot of hesitancy in bidding him way up (and for good reason, imo). Hard to gauge what's "cheap" for DeGrom, honestly.

Sorry, I was speaking about generalities in absolutes, however it tends to be the case even in the most experienced leagues.

[Bene Futuis]

Sorry, I was speaking about generalities in absolutes, however it tends to be the case even in the most experienced leagues.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[DMT]

I don't think that's the case anymore in experienced leagues, or at least not close to always. DeGrom may be an exception because I imagine there is going to be a lot of hesitancy in bidding him way up (and for good reason, imo). Hard to gauge what's "cheap" for DeGrom, honestly.

Yeah, he was one of the 1st three players tossed and he went for $51. Nola was tossed a round later and went for $47.

[Ken]

Yeah, he was one of the 1st three players tossed and he went for $51. Nola was tossed a round later and went for $47.

Wait, what? That statement agrees with what I said, why would it start with "yeah"? Confusing.

If Nola's $47 is the standard price, DeGrom was cheap last year at $51. He was typically valued by the market at $10-$15 more than Nola. Add in the inflation that you'd need to get to those prices and, wow, DeGrom was super cheap in your league. Which apparently you don't want this year.

[DMT]

Wait, what? That statement agrees with what I said, why would it start with "yeah"? Confusing.

If Nola's $47 is the standard price, DeGrom was cheap last year at $51. He was typically valued by the market at $10-$15 more than Nola. Add in the inflation that you'd need to get to those prices and, wow, DeGrom was super cheap in your league. Which apparently you don't want this year.

Sorry for throwing you off with the word "yeah". I also said I would have to re-consider my initial plan to toss him out first. A couple more data points Scherzer for $44 and Bauer for $41. When only a few aces are available, it's hard to make definitive statements about what their relative prices mean.

[revo]

I hate guys like this, not that there have ever been many guys like this. And by "like this" I mean a guy who, if healthy, could very easily be the #1 fantasy producer in baseball, but also a guy for whom that if is a very big if. The risk at that price point is so high. I've been burnt by high priced pitchers before, so I doubt I land him, even though he could easily out earn that $50 price tag, depending on your inflation rate.

For me, it comes down to these two questions: can you win in 2022 and if so, how much risk do you think you need to take to win in 2022? For me, the ideal landing spot for Degrom is a good team that needs someone who could be the best pitcher in baseball to really be a contender. He is not ideal for a clear favorite who should mitigate risk as much as possible, and he should not be bought by a rebuilding who has no chance of winning, because even if he is great early, his trade market might be depressed due to the potential for injury and that money would be better spent on safer players you can trade down the line.

He's the Christian McCaffrey of baseball. BTW, in fantasy football, there have been many "DeGrom types" who went top 3 based on talent but came with extreme injury woes.

[The Feral Slasher]

Who's being hunted in the Enchanted Forest by an evil Wizard called Tommy John.

Low to mid-30s, I'd go there. At about $35 in an auction, I'm out on DeGrom.

I am not saying anyone should keep him at 50, just pointing out that the only reason it might be considered is deGrom has HISTORIC talent and performance. Proven by FORENSICS.

[Gregg]

I am not saying anyone should keep him at 50, just pointing out that the only reason it might be considered is deGrom has HISTORIC talent and performance. Proven by FORENSICS.

and he didn't have a tear. It was just inflamed.

[The Feral Slasher]

and he didn't have a tear. It was just inflamed.

Just a flesh wound!

[Sour Masher]

He's the Christian McCaffrey of baseball. BTW, in fantasy football, there have been many "DeGrom types" who went top 3 based on talent but came with extreme injury woes.

And that is one reason why I don't like fantasy football.