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  • #46
    If anyone is not familiar with the story of Martin Niemöller, it is a good one--it is the one I keep hoping will repeat itself in the GOP, but I'm not seeing many Martin Niemöller's in the party right now. He was a conservative German Lutheran pastor that initially supported Hitler and was an antisemite, but became appalled at what he began to see and vocally turned away from the Nazi party, for which he was put in concentration camps from 1938-1945.

    He saw those in his own party, on his side, become more and more monstrous, and it made him look at himself and expel the monster within. He did so publicly and vocally at the cost of his own freedom and at the risk of his own life. He survived and his poem, lamenting his own initial cowardice, "First they came..." is featured at the Holocaust Museum, and has so often been repurposed:

    First they came for the Communists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Communist

    Then they came for the Socialists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Socialist

    Then they came for the trade unionists
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a trade unionist

    Then they came for the Jews
    And I did not speak out
    Because I was not a Jew

    Then they came for me
    And there was no one left
    To speak out for me

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Sour Masher View Post
      I can't understand how anyone would support this, but I guess that's the state of our country at this point.
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      Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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      The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
      George Orwell, 1984

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      • #48
        Originally posted by The Feral Slasher View Post
        I can't understand how anyone would support this, but I guess that's the state of our country at this point.
        I can't imagine why anyone would share their views on such a survey. The way I read the articles, it sounds like the mandate is on the universities to conduct the survey, but I can't imagine how a university could constitutionally compel either a professor or a student to answer it.
        "Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View Post
          I can't imagine why anyone would comply with the law, assuming that article is an accurate summary of it.
          "100% of respondents reported they were politically conservative, prompting University officials to lean more heavily into events and speakers that could bring a progressive viewpoint onto Florida Campuses."
          I'm not expecting to grow flowers in the desert...

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Sour Masher View Post
            He is the chosen successor for Trump for many in the GOP. If he becomes a frontrunner, it is just more validation that this devolution of the GOP wasn't a one-off cult of personality thing. It is the new hard right turn in the GOP, which I think will kill their party long term, but short term, they will do and say anything to fight to maintain and expand their power. Scary times. Watching the GOP continue its Trumpian turn is like watching Jonestown unfold, but if most of them survived (not all, because COVID keeps taking many of them out, as Trump hopes will happen to Bolton) and decided to go back for more of the poisoned Kool-Aid, again and again.
            My one friend from my high school group who is a Trump supporter (don’t even get me started, it has been the source of a lot of conflict and people removing themselves from our text chain) is totally in for Desantis in 2024.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by umjewman View Post
              My one friend from my high school group who is a Trump supporter (don’t even get me started, it has been the source of a lot of conflict and people removing themselves from our text chain) is totally in for Desantis in 2024.
              That's scary, because DeSantis is a competent version of Trump.

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              • #52
                “Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.”

                ― Albert Einstein

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