Covid Vaccine thread

[Ken]

You don't have to share my beliefs, everyone has the right to be wrong

Edit: I did say I can be arrogant at times

To me, it's the exact same sentiment as "agree to disagree".

But you may disagree

[GwynnInTheHall]

To me, it's the exact same sentiment as "agree to disagree".

That's your right

[Mithrandir]

I never meant vigilante justice. Sorry if it appeared that way.

By saying "execute that guy right away", I meant going through the legal process quickly and not going through some ridiculous bullshit trial that takes time and money.

No vigilante justice for me.

[Bene Futuis]

not going through some ridiculous bullshit trial that takes time and money.

Lmao, ok. Stupid ridiculous bullshit Constitution always getting in the way of us killing people as fast as possible! Ugh.

Edit: I mean, I guess this post was a little too snitty, but what you're calling bullshit is a right guaranteed to everyone in our country and exists both within the body of the Constitution as well as the 6th Amendment. Killing people without a trial is so, so far from what is right, good, decent, moral, or acceptable that it's hard for me to even begin to start to think about considering that it's remotely okay.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Lmao, ok. Stupid ridiculous bullshit Constitution always getting in the way of us killing people as fast as possible! Ugh.

Edit: I mean, I guess this post was a little too snitty, but what you're calling bullshit is a right guaranteed to everyone in our country and exists both within the body of the Constitution as well as the 6th Amendment. Killing people without a trial is so, so far from what is right, good, decent, moral, or acceptable that it's hard for me to even begin to start to think about considering that it's remotely okay.

The Castle Doctrine and Stand your Ground laws say--Hold my beer.

[nullnor]

I've changed my mind on gain of function experiment. I've realized you can't stop it, or whether the benefits outweigh risks. it's like nuclear weapons, if someone is going to have them and you can't stop them, they've earned special status. they belong to a club. and all the perks that come with it. for example biosafety labs would have good safety. countries in the club would be allocated extra resources for safety improvements. and good club members will share or collaborate about what they are working on. making countries hide what they are doing makes it less safe. also, there's no reason why containment of dangerous viruses can't be 100% safe and infallible. and that is probably the most constructive course of action. researchers aren't going to like it, the extra scrutiny. it hasn't really turned into a massive protest like the no-nukes movement, and I hope it doesn't. movies like contagion and outbreak and 12 monkeys is science fiction.

and if you like to read about science, viruses, I have like 20 books but I've only read a couple. im still trying to read Viruses: More Friends Than Foes by Karin Moelling. I like the idea but it's dry reading. Pandemic by Sonia Shah was a great book. one thing about biology or virology is that unlike cosmology, every book is probably very different.

I wouldn't know but I heard the best books are on the Russian biosafety labs. the shit they were doing puts everyone else combined to shame. anyways, if anyone has read stuff like Spillover or 'Microbes and Me' heh or maybe something by Jared Diamond and can recommend it give a shout.

I also still think there is a good chance science will discover the virus origin. I was more optimistic before, but still won't underestimate the chance. I've also changed my mind and am reticent whether the world should.

[chancellor]

Lmao, ok. Stupid ridiculous bullshit Constitution always getting in the way of us killing people as fast as possible! Ugh.

Edit: I mean, I guess this post was a little too snitty, but what you're calling bullshit is a right guaranteed to everyone in our country and exists both within the body of the Constitution as well as the 6th Amendment. Killing people without a trial is so, so far from what is right, good, decent, moral, or acceptable that it's hard for me to even begin to start to think about considering that it's remotely okay.

Yup. Well said!

[nullnor]

so I haven't sat down and watched this yet. it may very well be a quack video. my point is that, even if anything is true, it really doesn't matter. I look at it as one of those ancient alien videos. crazy but there's education to be gleamed.

[nullnor]

dam they removed it. hours long and looked meaty.

How to save the world, in three easy steps.
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•Streamed live on Jun 10, 2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_NNTVJzqtY


Dr. Robert Malone is the inventor of mRNA Vaccine technology.
Mr. Steve Kirsch is a serial entrepreneur who has been researching adverse reactions to COVID vaccines.
Dr. Bret Weinstein is an evolutionary biologist.
Bret talks to Robert and Steve about the pandemic, treatment and the COVID vaccines.
Bret's Twitter: HTTPS://twitter.com/bretweinstein

Steve's paper on COVID vaccine reactions: https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-...
Steve's Twitter: HTTPS://twitter.com/stkirsch
COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund: https://www.treatearly.org/team/steve...

Dr. Malone's website: https://www.rwmalonemd.com/mrna-vacci...
Robert's LinkedIn profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rwmalonemd
Robert's Twitter: HTTPS://twitter.com/RWMaloneMD

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Timestamps:
00:00 Introductions
02:20 This must be discussed
03:13 Will herd immunity be reached?
07:58 Spike protein is very dangerous
13:45 FDA knew it could be toxic if it didn't stay stuck
18:09 Vaccine sufferers censored
23:26 Reviewing the FDA data package
26:41 Corners were cut
27:52 Steve looking at VAERS
32:37 Robert's friends at the FDA and the emergency use authorisation
37:38 Risk benefit and quality life years
40:18 Alternative to vaccines
44:19 Mask wearing RCT
45:28 Three anomalies around vaccines
46:05 Fluvoxamine trials
51:00 Two million dollar offer and the NIH
52:13 Robert's view of the NIH
53:00 Regulatory capture
54:41 Fauci's emails
56:30 Merck on Ivermectin
59:24 Emergent phenomenon
01:01:42 Vaccine deaths
01:03:24 Tess Lawrie's vaccine safety data
01:04:43 Difference between the gene therapy vaccines
01:06:40 Self reported deaths from vaccines
01:09:18 Adverse reactions
01:17:12 Robert on V-safe database
01:19:30 Social media censorship
01:22:20 Steve's experience with denial
01:24:17 Two teams
01:28:20 "Don't come back until your lips are blue"
01:30:52 "Treat people early with drugs"
01:32:11 Ignoring frontline doctors
01:35:39 Financial incentives
01:37:28 Response to demand for RCT on ivermectin
01:38:39 Robert's personal experience with repurposing drugs
01:40:52 Mink and ferrets lab research
01:43:53 Robert on animal model for COVID treatment
01:46:33 Ivermectin works
01:49:13 Repurposing drugs
01:52:17 Doctors ignoring treatments
01:55:31 Effective treatments for long haulers
01:56:45 Robert's response on incentives and hospital liability
02:01:42 Additional antiviral and Gilead overlooking it
02:03:13 Communication is forbidden
02:04:53 Using antivirals as soon as virus presents
02:06:41 Multiple drugs at once and Dr Drew
02:11:02 Trials with drug combinations
02:13:53 Criticism of Fauci and mechanisms of action for ivermectin
02:17:35 Pfizer data on where the vaccine spike protein goes
02:20:42 Spike protein in the ovaries and bone marrow
02:22:12 FDA signals of risk from vaccines and auto-immune issues
02:27:41 Bret summarises and discusses additional harms
02:28:31 Vaccines possibly causing escape mutants
02:31:56 Antibody dependent enhancement (ADE)
02:38:19 Why did Robert and Steve get vaccinated?
02:40:54 Summary of risks including coagulation problems
02:42:41 FDA, thalidomide, and reproductive toxicity
02:48:12 Vaccinating adolescents
02:50:00 Steve on vaccinating his children and the response he receives
02:56:38 Don't be a pioneer, you'll get arrows in the ass
03:00:01 Extended regulatory capture
03:01:10 Can Elon Musk save the planet?
03:05:17 Pharmaceutical industry offshore
03:08:59 Steve's solution, plea to big tech employees, and vaccine long haulers
03:13:41 Robert speaking to big tech employees
03:15:55 Wrap up

they even got into a huge pissing match. wow there is so much censorship about this stuff. what a fucking nanny state. I am so disappointed. these are teachable moments. for everyone no matter what so called side you are on. people aren't even allowed to be wrong. I swear I am just going to go into the woods and become a hermit. heh

[nullnor]

my greatest fear is thinking, nobody ever gets anything right the first time. I am also scared about you guys censoring me talking like this. I value your input. I have my problems but im not incorrigible.

my 2nd greatest fear is becoming vaccinated, and then the virus changes or something, and since I was already vaccinated, it won't be as effective the 2nd time. so I do plan on being vaccinated. I play the long game. and I know what I am saying is crazy talk with nary science behind it. that's what happens when you become anti-vaxx. it's like quicksand. you just fall deeper down the rabbit hole. and this is one of those times when you have to see the crazy people falling down it with you and point out, well these guys are even more wrong than I am. and then you can try to get your bearing and set your ship straight. shouting us down isn't going to help.

this is why I am good with animals. I have this cursed ability to put myself in someone else's shoes or position. it's why I was a shut in and hoarder for 20 years afraid of stepping on butterflies.

I totally understand why baseball players point to the sky after hitting a home run. for example, I came home today after doing masonry work the first song on the radio was your kiss is on my list. yeah it's a coincidence. but still, wtf. heh

[nullnor]

i'll tell you one thing, when they said the adenovirus vaccine, which is every vaccine beside Pfizer and Moderna, and they said it wasn't going in the nucleus or writing to your DNA, there's a good chance, they totally fucked up. and if it's true, it was a simple promise, the instructions go to the cytoplasm. is it even possible that something like that could be censored? I wouldn't think so.

yet, here we are after people made runs on toilet paper because they thought it was the only way to wipe our ass.

[nullnor]

and everyone knows I have always been so fucking anti-conspiracy theorists. I worked with assholes for over a decade that would say shit to me like, 'yeah, but what about Sandy Hook CT. and right then the conversation was over. ..it fuckin pains me to have to weigh in on this shit.

[nullnor]

I am much more skilled at talking about my cats. those little dickens, left me a headless rabbit near the driver side door of my car, realizing they actually left it so I wouldn't step on it. cats think of everything. then I hung out and monitored the situation and they caught something that protested like a chipmunk. it's a long story. but I was like, 2 things, that chipmunk didn't want to give up and seemed dangerous, believe it or not, so I intervened. #2 I had to put my foot down and say you're only allowed to kill one thing per night. that's an impossible lesson to teach cats. just because you have superpowers and can catch, play and kill something all the time, doesn't mean you should. so good luck with that.

but it's nice being left a present, as long as you don't step on it. I wasn't planning on admonishing or congratulating her the first time tonight, but after the 2nd time, I revealed my hand. and the fucking chipmunk or whatever it was ran up in the engine of a car to get away. at that point it became, ok I caused this but now you're fucking potentially going to fuck the car up.

I just replaced the steering pump on my 2002 Toyota camry myself. it took 4 days. and it worked. it was hard. I had to you tube everything. I am worried the timing belt is going. it acts like it slips out of neutral and the speedometer goes to zero than goes back to normal. I can't figure it out.

[nullnor]

when you find a headless rabbit and the cat waiting for your reaction, it's like Forrest Gump, I brought you some sweets but I ate some.

[nullnor]

oh I gave them tuna fish as a consolation after I saved the chipmunk. that stuff is bad for them but, it's ok once in a while.

like I say, in the animal world, I never make a mistake. except for the time an akita bit me in the face. that was my fault. ripped my nose open but surprisingly after 50 stiches it barely left any scars.

it's pretty cool being drunk and belligerent and going up to people with 50 stiches on your face. they are like whoa.. lol