And so it has begun

[Teenwolf]

Steve Bannon, the white supremacist "alt-right" hobo who was stunningly appointed to this country's National Security Council by the former guy, has been indicted by a federal grand jury after his laughable "executive privilege" attempt at avoiding testifying about his role and knowledge of the 1/6 right wing insurrection and attempted coup. Good luck finding a pardon now, guy.

Edit: You're next, Mark Meadows

I wish the Senators who gave guided tours and coordinated with the chudsurrectionists were being held to account. There's video of Marjorie Taylor-Greene talking openly about all of it in the few days before Jan 6th... its kind of the Trump play. Don't conceal your crimes, just pretend they aren't crimes and dare someone to charge you. Probably a higher likelihood she's President one day than being charged for her blatant criminality. I wish that were hyperbole, but 1/6 of all Americans now "follow Q".

Fuck I hadn't considered the possibility of MTG as President until just now. It's not a fun thought experiment.

[Sour Masher]

I wish the Senators who gave guided tours and coordinated with the chudsurrectionists were being held to account. There's video of Marjorie Taylor-Greene talking openly about all of it in the few days before Jan 6th... its kind of the Trump play. Don't conceal your crimes, just pretend they aren't crimes and dare someone to charge you. Probably a higher likelihood she's President one day than being charged for her blatant criminality. I wish that were hyperbole, but 1/6 of all Americans now "follow Q".

Fuck I hadn't considered the possibility of MTG as President until just now. It's not a fun thought experiment.

I want to ridicule you for suggesting MTG has more than a snowball's chance in hell at being president, as it is as insane as a soup sandwich, but if the former guy proved anything it is that literally any half-wit willing to pander to the LCD in America has a shot at the highest office in the land in the Gerrymandered system we have. MTG doesn't belong in any office, but then, neither did the former guy.

[Teenwolf]

I want to ridicule you for suggesting MTG has more than a snowball's chance in hell at being president, as it is as insane as a soup sandwich, but if the former guy proved anything it is that literally any half-wit willing to pander to the LCD in America has a shot at the highest office in the land in the Gerrymandered system we have. MTG doesn't belong in any office, but then, neither did the former guy.

The #1 qualifier to be the Republican nominee is who can piss off the Libs the most. MTG would get the most media coverage in a Republican primary, just like Trump. It's scary to think about, and that's exactly why she has a fair chance to do it some day. She invokes fear.

[umjewman]

The #1 qualifier to be the Republican nominee is who can piss off the Libs the most. MTG would get the most media coverage in a Republican primary, just like Trump. It's scary to think about, and that's exactly why she has a fair chance to do it some day. She invokes fear.

Don’t worry - I’ll deploy the space laser before she can get too close.

[Sour Masher]

Don’t worry - I’ll deploy the space laser before she can get too close.

You laugh, but a defense system to combat Jewish space laser could be her wall....and the Jewish aliens will pay for it!

[revo]

Just in case you didn't think a coup was underway and supported by the WH:

"In one November 6, 2020, text exchange with a member of Congress, Meadows reportedly said "I love it" in a discussion about the possibility of appointing alternate electors in certain states, and the member acknowledged the plan would be "highly controversial.""

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/08/politics/mark-meadows-lawsuit/index.html

[Bene Futuis]

And we learn (yet again) that Biden won Wisconsin after yet another conservative group did a report that concluded with the finding that there was no widespread voter fraud. This echoes another conservative report, this one out of Michigan, that concluded with - you guessed it, a finding that there was no widespread voter fraud.

When will Republicans get it through their thick heads? After the next coup attempt, I'm assuming.

[Bene Futuis]

Holy crap, Mark Meadows just released a PowerPoint of the plans for the insurrection to the committee. I'll see if I can link the thing. These people are trying to destroy democracy in this country.

Check out page 12 (assuming I can figure out how to share the thing).

[Bene Futuis]

Here's a tweet with a link to the PowerPoint. We are so fucked.

[chancellor]

Here's a tweet with a link to the PowerPoint. We are so fucked.

Well, that was disappointing. They didn't even capitalize FORENSIC.

I'm missing why you're concerned. There was a steaming pile of crap about China influence, debunked voting machine issues, and how they'd like recounts to happen. Their options, as summarized in the next to last slide, were all three things VP Pence could have done. Reality is, Pence did none of those things.

[revo]

Well, that was disappointing. They didn't even capitalize FORENSIC.

I'm missing why you're concerned. There was a steaming pile of crap about China influence, debunked voting machine issues, and how they'd like recounts to happen. Their options, as summarized in the next to last slide, were all three things VP Pence could have done. Reality is, Pence did none of those things.

Obviously, a bigger issue is this powerpoint, which seems written by a 5th grader, was presented by the WH Chief of Staff to the guy that was President. Where the guy that was President could have benefitted greatly from attempting to implement this. Which goes back to everything anyone had against him, which is that he would do things for his own benefit, and not the country's.

[chancellor]

Obviously, a bigger issue is this powerpoint, which seems written by a 5th grader, was presented by the WH Chief of Staff to the guy that was President. Where the guy that was President could have benefitted greatly from attempting to implement this. Which goes back to everything anyone had against him, which is that he would do things for his own benefit, and not the country's.

Certainly a valid point on a Chief of Staff seeing this as a valid presentation to the President. That was clearly a check that failed, and you may have unfairly maligned 5th graders. But I'd say it proves the robustness of the process. So, some idiot created this, sold a Deputy Chief on it (failure 1), the Deputy Chief sold the Chief on it (failure 2), but it crashed and burned at the VPs desk. So it never even made it out of the Executive branch to Congress or the Judicial Branch for additional challenges.

I may be misunderstanding the concern. I mean, if the concern is the President's Chief of Staff was so stupid that he'd actually present this, have at it. If the concern is that we were somehow perilously close to a coup, then, yeah, I'm pretty much laughing.

[DMT]

Certainly a valid point on a Chief of Staff seeing this as a valid presentation to the President. That was clearly a check that failed, and you may have unfairly maligned 5th graders. But I'd say it proves the robustness of the process. So, some idiot created this, sold a Deputy Chief on it (failure 1), the Deputy Chief sold the Chief on it (failure 2), but it crashed and burned at the VPs desk. So it never even made it out of the Executive branch to Congress or the Judicial Branch for additional challenges.

I may be misunderstanding the concern. I mean, if the concern is the President's Chief of Staff was so stupid that he'd actually present this, have at it. If the concern is that we were somehow perilously close to a coup, then, yeah, I'm pretty much laughing.

It's not that they almost succeeded, it's that they're going to try again after removing the blockers that doomed their first attempt. Are you similarly dismissive of this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ection/620843/

[GwynnInTheHall]

OK here's the rub.

I think the use of perilously close is a bit hyperbolic.

It was a test run at best, the incompetence in Former Guys WH (to include his own) Plus the lack of cohesiveness within the entire insurrection made it almost impossible to actualize without Pence's cooperation. If Pence had gone along, I think it would have been a different outcome altogether as those seeking to delegitimize the election would have been emboldened and offered up additional resistance.

Let's look at what we know.

Almost 70 million voted for the Former Guy.

50-80% of those still believe Former guy is still the President and that the election was stolen. That's at least 35 million.

50% of Republicans admit to owning guns.

Up to 10% of Americans identify as Far Right Activists/Extremists. Thier membership has risen since 1/6 and they're getting more vitriolic.

Right leaning broadcasts that lionize foreign dictators/dictatorships over democratically elected officials as well as continually airing misinformation and inciteful/violent rhetoric.

US Miliary 40% of the 1.4 million members voted for Trump. Law enforcement (hard to get numbers) has traditionally leaned to the right.

The seeds are there for another attempt to validate and/carry out another insurrection. Better organized, more support, more firepower.

Too many on the Left won't fight back, too many in the middle will want to stay out of it (I'm speaking of independents and Nonvoters)

They can be deterred if the DOJ and 1/6 commission grow some balls and start hammering those involved--I'd personally declare guys like Meadows, Stone and Bannon enemy combatants and throw em in Gitmo while the DOJ sorts it out, but that's just me.

So no, I don't believe we were thisclose to a real Coup, but I DO believe we are headed to a place where--If we're not diligently--we could easily find ourselves in a "Perilous" position come 2024.

[revo]

It's not that they almost succeeded, it's that they're going to try again after removing the blockers that doomed their first attempt. Are you similarly dismissive of this?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ection/620843/

Unless they win, in which case there was no cheating.