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    Cubs! I am very sad at you!

    You let Schwarber go for nothing. You trade Darvish for a laughable return. Were you too lazy to work out a better deal? Or were you too afraid that the Pads would back out and you would get "stuck" with his salary this year?

    And now you are trying to trade Contreras! Shame on you!

    You better hope that tv is not your only stream of revenue, because you are making this team unwatchable. You just think you lost money last year.

    Your cross town rivals are fun and exciting...just sayin.

    I am very very sad at you!

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    yeah, I think I'm a Sox fan now. I don't mind rooting for a bad team, but I'm not going to try to care about an org that isn't trying to be good. I still like individual players on the team, but...
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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    I'd expect Contreras to be dealt followed by Rizzo, Baez and Bryant if they will move him for peanuts.

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    You only find diamonds in the rough when you acquire them as 17/18 year olds before their true ceiling is known. I like the 4 prospects going to the Cubs. Their system needed a teardown as the core haven't gotten it done, and the cupboards in the farm are bare... thats how you're able to acquire 2 stud SP's with 3 years of control each, one day after the next... by building that farm system to acquire those studs. The Cubs traded their prospects for Jose Quintana, which both emptied the farm stock of future stars and saddled them with mediocrity... so it just wasn't a good enough core tl get there.

    Just like when my Jays went all in to deal the prospects for the knuckleballer and Jose Reyes and Tulowitski, those players weren't the right supplemental pieces for Bautista and Encarnacion's prime to win a title, but it was still worth the shot. Also, I'm glad the Jays rebuilt and created the core of young stuff I love today, they just need the right supplemental pieces this time. I hope we get Willson Contreras from the Cubs and he brings us a title while you get whatever exciting Jays prospects bring you your next title. Its the circle of life.

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    It could be worse. You could be a Pirates fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by madducks View Post
    It could be worse. You could be a Pirates fan.
    If that isn't a t-shirt already, I think we just found a good way to make some money.

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    I'm going to disagree with Teenwolf on the prime cause for the deal(s) that have been and will likely be made - it's about the Benjamins first and a hopefully successful restocking of the minors second. The Cubs ship out a true #1 SP and a serviceable #2 C and $5 mil and don't get a top 100 prospect back? Sure, some of those really young guys may turn out well, but that's very dicey. Add in all the poor mouthing the Ricketts have been doing, and it's not hard to see why this is happening.

    The Brewers and Cards have to be happily stunned their two primary rivals have decided to commit seppuku.
    I'm just here for the baseball.

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    They saved $13M this year with this deal, and I won't be surprised if they flip Davies too. What an embarrassment.
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    After reading more on the prospects heading to Chicago, I'm convinced this is exactly the type of rebuild trade I would be pursuing.

    Yeison Santana - plus defense at SS, and has exceeded expectations with the bat playing below his age level so far. I like him, and have a share in my dynasty league.

    Reginald Preciado - Called the headliner of the deal, seems to carry the highest offensive ceiling, may shift to 3rd but could be a 1st division bat there.

    Wherever he plays, the real value lies in his bat. Preciado has impressive bat control for a switch-hitting teenager and is likely to develop more power as he grows into his lanky frame. He’s a good runner and could have sneaky 10-15 steal speed depending on growth. He’s an extremely raw player but with some generous projection has potential for stardom. I am pretty confident he grows into 20-30 HR power over the next few years, but likely moves to third base in the process.
    Owen Caissie - slugging RF with plus arm and speed.

    At 6’4″ 190lbs, he has adapted biomechanical aspects from other big framed hitters, specifically mentioning guys like Aaron Judge, Carlos Correa, and Barry Bonds in pre-draft interviews. As with most slugging corner bats, Caissie’s long swing is prone to whiffs, but he should be able to make enough contact to enable the power. He has a good arm (hitting 90 mph from RF) and decent speed for someone his size, which projects him to be a regular corner outfielder. I see a profile trajectory towards someone like Jay Bruce.
    Ismael Mena - Plus defensive CF with intriguing bat.

    Mena is a wiry athletic CF with good speed and contact skills. Signed for $2.2 million out of the Dominican Republic in 2019, he has the traits of a future top of the order bat. Standing at 6’3″ 185lbs, his lanky build has room for more power, but he has shown good plate coverage with an inside-out approach thus far. Speed is his best present tool, projecting to be a 20-25 SB threat at peak and utilizing it to be an above-average defender in CF.
    https://www.pitcherlist.com/analyzin...l-and-darvish/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teenwolf View Post
    You only find diamonds in the rough when you acquire them as 17/18 year olds before their true ceiling is known. I like the 4 prospects going to the Cubs. Their system needed a teardown as the core haven't gotten it done, and the cupboards in the farm are bare... thats how you're able to acquire 2 stud SP's with 3 years of control each, one day after the next... by building that farm system to acquire those studs. The Cubs traded their prospects for Jose Quintana, which both emptied the farm stock of future stars and saddled them with mediocrity... so it just wasn't a good enough core tl get there.

    Just like when my Jays went all in to deal the prospects for the knuckleballer and Jose Reyes and Tulowitski, those players weren't the right supplemental pieces for Bautista and Encarnacion's prime to win a title, but it was still worth the shot. Also, I'm glad the Jays rebuilt and created the core of young stuff I love today, they just need the right supplemental pieces this time. I hope we get Willson Contreras from the Cubs and he brings us a title while you get whatever exciting Jays prospects bring you your next title. Its the circle of life.
    The other key piece was Ben Cherington. I'd love to read something that addresses his impact on the org wrt player development, I don't think it can be overstated.

    So Pirates fans, there actually may be some hope after all.

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