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    Gun violence epidemic

    Our country is diseased and the Republican party is preventing any attempts at a cure. Ammosexuals please don't bother quoting the 2nd Amendment unless you're acknowledging the full wording including "well-regulated". He is a great Twitter thread about details of the epidemic.

    https://twitter.com/meganranney/stat...438949888?s=19
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Ammosexuals please don't bother quoting the 2nd Amendment unless you're acknowledging the full wording including "well-regulated".
    Well I guess as has been established in prior discussions -- I am not allowed to respond. Have fun guys....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldgriff View Post
    Well I guess as has been established in prior discussions -- I am not allowed to respond. Have fun guys....
    First of all, I never called you that, merely acknowledged that millions of them exist. Second, if you want to bring up 2nd Amendment just don't pick and choose the parts that the extremists use to justify their positions of unrestricted access to any and all firearms.
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    And we've already hashed out our positions, this was just more to have a thread to document the epidemic. Quite shocking that there wasn't already a thread to be honest but indicative of how numb we have become to what the rest of the world recoils at in horror and befuddlement.
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    I have never held the position that citizens should have "unrestricted access to and and all firearms".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    And we've already hashed out our positions, this was just more to have a thread to document the epidemic. Quite shocking that there wasn't already a thread to be honest but indicative of how numb we have become to what the rest of the world recoils at in horror and befuddlement.
    Hey, here’s an idea. Let’s start a thread on religion too! Sorry, I’m a bit snaky today.

    Any way like with many issues I don’t think we are too far off on how to fix this. The extremes are “take away all guns” or “you can pry my gun out of my dead hand when you come to take it.” Those of us in middle of this issue agree that many things could and should be done on this issue. Stop using the Constitution as a crutch when it’s continent to your argument (not you specifically, you as in whomever is taking thier stand in either side of this). What’s practical and possible. Again blaming the GOP is silly. They represent a large constituency that is a high percentage of gun owners, the vast vast majority of which are responsible in this country. To blame the Dems would be just as silly because they represent groups opposed to gun ownership. Neither side wants to “lose” on this issue, like many others, so no one ever wins! Compromise would be great but it’s become impossible without some serious sacrifices on both fronts. The “take away all guns” people need to realize that is a nonstarter with reposinsinle gun owners. The gun owners need to realize that through back ground checks and mental health sreening is necessary to better control the use of guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldgriff View Post
    I have never held the position that citizens should have "unrestricted access to and and all firearms".
    Again, not claiming you have, but when people ignore the"well- regulated " language of the 2nd Amendment they put themselves in the same frame of argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernie Brewer View Post
    Hey, here’s an idea. Let’s start a thread on religion too! Sorry, I’m a bit snaky today.

    Any way like with many issues I don’t think we are too far off on how to fix this. The extremes are “take away all guns” or “you can pry my gun out of my dead hand when you come to take it.” Those of us in middle of this issue agree that many things could be done. Again blaming the GOP is silly. They represent a large percentage of gun owners who are responsible in this country. To blame the Dems would be just as silly because they represent groups opposed to gun ownership. Neither side wants to “lose” on this issue, like many others, so no one ever wins! Compromise would be great but it’s become impossible without some serious sacrifices on both fronts. The “take away all guns” people need to realize that is a nonstarter with reposinsinle gun owners. The gun owners need to realize that through back ground checks and mental health sreening is necessary to better control the use of guns.
    Sorry your bothsidesism isn't going to fly on this one. Democrats have offered plenty of sensible gun control measures and the GOP hasn't done squat except block them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Sorry your bothsidesism isn't going to fly on this one. Democrats have offered plenty of sensible gun control measures and the GOP hasn't done squat.
    Well, your onesideism hasn’t really worked has it? Maybe find a way so both side hurt a bit. It’s called compromise. If your going to just play bothsideisms I’m out of this discussion as it serves no useful purpose but to end conversations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DMT View Post
    Sorry your bothsidesism isn't going to fly on this one. Democrats have offered plenty of sensible gun control measures and the GOP hasn't done squat except block them.
    I'm with DMT on this, Bernie. I don't think Democrats have seriously pushed "take away all guns" or anything close to it. For better or worse, the Democrats have been trying to pick away at the edges, and even that has been soundly and widely rebuffed by GOP legislators.

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