2k24: St. Louis Cardinals

[Pauly]

Counting today, Yepez has started 7 games in a row with three in the corner OF (RF today). Same span: Dickerson and Pujols two starts each. Yepez is a regular as far as im concerned.

[Sour Masher]

What do you all make of Tyler O'neil? One year wonder, career year, but not this bad and he will pick it up, or he will get back to being as good as last year at some point?

[harmon]

What do you all make of Tyler O'neil? One year wonder, career year, but not this bad and he will pick it up, or he will get back to being as good as last year at some point?

Carlson has been just as bad altho he has picked it up a little bit lately including a HR today. Something in the water there?

I expect both of these guys will get back to better production soon enough.

[Ken]

What do you all make of Tyler O'neil? One year wonder, career year, but not this bad and he will pick it up, or he will get back to being as good as last year at some point?

It seems like the high K% guys are the ones who have been knocked down the most this year with the dead ball.

[whalewang]

It seems like the high K% guys are the ones who have been knocked down the most this year with the dead ball.

Some NL players that have been struggling (with K% this year):
Muncy: 20.3%
Justin Turner: 17.2%
Nelson Cruz: 18.8%
Grisom: 26.8%
Brendan Rodgers 24.4%
Carlson 16.5%
Tyler O'Neill 30.0% (actually a little lower vs 2021)

So, I guess I don't see the correlation.

[Ken]

Some NL players that have been struggling (with K% this year):
Muncy: 20.3%
Justin Turner: 17.2%
Nelson Cruz: 18.8%
Grisom: 26.8%
Brendan Rodgers 24.4%
Carlson 16.5%
Tyler O'Neill 30.0% (actually a little lower vs 2021)

So, I guess I don't see the correlation.

I mean, if you remove the data points that match the description sure, there's no correlation.

Trevor Story 32.5%
Mike Zunino 35.2%
Franmil Reyes 43.2%
Adalberto Mondesi 37% (not that it matters now)
Miguel Sano 32.3%
Victor Robles 29.3%
Carson Kelly 33.3%
Joey Votto 32.2%
Spencer Torkelson 33.3%
Robbie Grossman 29.3%
Adam Duvall 32.5%
Joey Gallo 38.5%
Chris Taylor 38.3%
Kyle Schwarber 31.5%
Cody Bellinger 32.2%

To clarify in case not completely obvious, I'm not saying that no one with a lower strikeout percentage can be struggling. It just seems to be affecting those with higher % more than normal this year.

Muncy as I've said in a few different threads is coming off a major injury, he's not really relevant to this conversation.

Rodgers, Grisham, and O'Neill fit into the high K% group (perhaps Rodgers fringe).

[whalewang]

I mean, if you remove the data points that match the description sure, there's no correlation.

Trevor Story 32.5%
Mike Zunino 35.2%
Franmil Reyes 43.2%
Adalberto Mondesi 37% (not that it matters now)
Miguel Sano 32.3%
Victor Robles 29.3%
Cole tucker 39.7%
Carson Kelly 33.3%
Joey Votto 32.2%
Spencer Torkelson 33.3%
Robbie Grossman 29.3%
Adam Duvall 32.5%



To clarify in case not completely obvious, I'm not saying that no one with a lower strikeout percentage can be struggling. It just seems to be affecting those with higher % more than normal this year.

I was only looking at NL and missed a few as you noted above.
Votto: Historically is 18.4% vs 32.2% for this year - yikes.
Carson Kelly: Historically is 21.3% vs 33.3% for this year - yikes.

[Ken]

I was only looking at NL and missed a few as you noted above.
Votto: Historically is 18.4% vs 32.2% for this year - yikes.
Carson Kelly: Historically is 21.3% vs 33.3% for this year - yikes.

Fair, I think limiting your universe may miss the bigger picture trend - or maybe it's more of an AL thing? (that would be strange!)

** I added a few more guys to the list after you quoted it too. Seems like a lot to me

[Pauly]

I mean, if you remove the data points that match the description sure, there's no correlation.

Trevor Story 32.5%
Mike Zunino 35.2%
Franmil Reyes 43.2%
Adalberto Mondesi 37% (not that it matters now)
Miguel Sano 32.3%
Victor Robles 29.3%
Carson Kelly 33.3%
Joey Votto 32.2%
Spencer Torkelson 33.3%
Robbie Grossman 29.3%
Adam Duvall 32.5%
Joey Gallo 38.5%
Chris Taylor 38.3%
Kyle Schwarber 31.5%
Cody Bellinger 32.2%

To clarify in case not completely obvious, I'm not saying that no one with a lower strikeout percentage can be struggling. It just seems to be affecting those with higher % more than normal this year.

Muncy as I've said in a few different threads is coming off a major injury, he's not really relevant to this conversation.

Rodgers, Grisham, and O'Neill fit into the high K% group (perhaps Rodgers fringe).

Chris Taylor is alarming as hell!

[pitbull]

Liberatore and Gorman getting called up. Gorman Friday and Liberatore Saturday.

[whalewang]

Liberatore and Gorman getting called up. Gorman Friday and Liberatore Saturday.

Interesting! Ken was just correlating high K% to players who are struggling and then we get this Gorman call up. Gorman's K% this year in triple A is 34% to go with 15 HRs.

[revo]

Gorman kicking some ass to start his career: 12 for 31 with 3 3-hit games already, + 2 HRs & 7 RBIs

[pitbull]

That didn't take long.

Cardinals placed RHP Jack Flaherty on the 15-day injured list with a right shoulder strain.

[rhd]

Nolan Arenado hit for the cycle last night, the 2nd one of his career.

[madducks]