The INDEFENSIBLE Defense of Marriage Act

[onejayhawk]

And has been pretty well quantitatively shown, an absolute piker compared to this adminstration. I can understand disliking Cheney, but you're simply giving him wayyyyyyyy too much credit.

And I'd argue the concept of "the president can do whatever he wants in time of war" predates Cheney's tenure by, oh, about 140 years.

Give him that it was a Republican administration that forced emancipation through the Democrats opposition.

J

[Erik]

Give him that it was a Republican administration that forced emancipation through the Democrats opposition.

J

Yeah, because the parties stand for EXACTLY the same things that they did 150 years ago.

[onejayhawk]

Yeah, because the parties stand for EXACTLY the same things that they did 150 years ago.

Or fifty years ago. Nice to see you are keeping up.

J

[Erik]

Your inability to understand sarcasm is mind-boggling.

[onejayhawk]

Your inability to understand sarcasm is mind-boggling.

I guess that makes me good at something. You?

J

[Fresno Bob]

And I'd argue the concept of "the president can do whatever he wants in time of war" predates Cheney's tenure by, oh, about 140 years.

and was crushed post Watergate/Vietnam and only recently revitalized by Cheney's seizure of 9/11 and his 1% rule

[Fresno Bob]

Here's the Supreme Court in front of my house during the SF Dyke March....we kept calling out "Give us Scalia, we want Scalia!"



and here's a different shot, my house is the blue one on the left side

[senorsheep]

Cool that things like this are starting to be possible:

I'm down with gays loving each other. And marrying each other. But I draw the line at celebrating cornball Broadway musical homages...

[heyelander]

Easy for you to say, living in NM, but those of us living on the east coast will remember this come hurricane season

[Pogues]

The Senate voted 64-32 today to end decades of employment discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans.

Woo!

What's next...they gonna vote to allow camels in the workplace?

WOOT WOOT!!!

[Moonlight J]

The Senate voted 64-32 today to end decades of employment discrimination against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender Americans.

Woo!

So great that half of our Congress isn't bigoted but the other half won't bring it to the floor

[baldgriff]

Conservative Christians, once again boldly leading us into the 18th century.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/21/us/arizona-anti-gay-bill/

Jesus sure would be proud! Good job you bigoted dicks.

Funny - currently in MN the state is allowing Muslim taxi cab drivers to deny service to clients based on their religious beliefs. The drivers can deny service to people with dogs, carrying alcohol, gays and other things that do not comply with their beliefs... I dont agree with any of this here in MN or in AZ........... just saying

[Bob Kohm]

Do we really need to revisit conservative Christian Churches preaching from the pulpit throughout the Civil Rights Era that segregation was ordained by God? FWIW, Griff, I don;t think that cab drivers should be allowed to discriminate either, although I know nothing about the local law you're citing.

[Fresno Bob]

jesus wept

[baldgriff]

Just for the record, this proposed law is in response to what religious folks see as an attack on the the Religious Freedom Restoration Act by a New Mexico court when it ruled that a photographer who denied his services to a gay couple was discriminatory. Denying service on the basis of sexual orientation is illegal in New Mexico but the ruling was significant because it essentially said that individuals may not invoke that Act as a defense even when the government is not involved. The Arizona bill is specifically intended to curb the tide of allowances for gays and lesbians and would allow them to invoke the RFRA in Arizona if sued for discrimination.

In the case of the cabbies - people are being denied service based on the fact that they dont comply with the cabbies religious views (at least this is what I am understanding). Im just saying that not only the Christian right are using reliqion as the whip to deny services to those they may choose not to serve. Im not trying to say that the Muslims or anyone else are making the laws, just that there are other religions using their viewpoints as a means to determine who they may and may not serve.

Again - I dont agree with any of it.