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10 unsettling answers to the fermi paradox
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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Originally posted by Steve 2.0 View PostDon't you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?"Jesus said to them, 'Truly I tell you, the tax collectors and the prostitutes are going into the kingdom of God ahead of you.'"
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Originally posted by Ken View PostOnly part of the time---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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I am continually amazed at the vastness of the universe, and both how much we are quickly learning about it and how little we still know about it. As of now, we think it continues 2 trillion galaxies, but it may contain many more. It may, in fact, be infinite and eternal. The big bang may have been by one of many local bursts in an infinite multiverse. We can only perceive a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of reality.
It is hubristic for us to proclaim any certainty about anything related to the vast expanse we know so little about. The idea that there is no other intelligent life in the universe, a universe we only observe a tiny fraction of, because we aren't knee deep in aliens baffles me. We don't even know if intergallactic travel is possible. Who would travel millions and millions of light years to hop over to another galaxy? Anyone claiming we are alone in the universe is basically calling an election because of their own single vote. That is about the amount of data we have in relation to the whole right now.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostI am continually amazed at the vastness of the universe, and both how much we are quickly learning about it and how little we still know about it. As of now, we think it continues 2 trillion galaxies, but it may contain many more. It may, in fact, be infinite and eternal. The big bang may have been by one of many local bursts in an infinite multiverse. We can only perceive a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of reality.
It is hubristic for us to proclaim any certainty about anything related to the vast expanse we know so little about. The idea that there is no other intelligent life in the universe, a universe we only observe a tiny fraction of, because we aren't knee deep in aliens baffles me. We don't even know if intergallactic travel is possible. Who would travel millions and millions of light years to hop over to another galaxy? Anyone claiming we are alone in the universe is basically calling an election because of their own single vote. That is about the amount of data we have in relation to the whole right now.“There’s no normal life, Wyatt, it’s just life. Get on with it.” – Doc Holliday
"It doesn't matter what you think" - The Rock
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Have I told you about otters being the only marine animal that can lift rocks?
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostI am continually amazed at the vastness of the universe, and both how much we are quickly learning about it and how little we still know about it. As of now, we think it continues 2 trillion galaxies, but it may contain many more. It may, in fact, be infinite and eternal. The big bang may have been by one of many local bursts in an infinite multiverse. We can only perceive a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of reality.
It is hubristic for us to proclaim any certainty about anything related to the vast expanse we know so little about. The idea that there is no other intelligent life in the universe, a universe we only observe a tiny fraction of, because we aren't knee deep in aliens baffles me. We don't even know if intergallactic travel is possible. Who would travel millions and millions of light years to hop over to another galaxy? Anyone claiming we are alone in the universe is basically calling an election because of their own single vote. That is about the amount of data we have in relation to the whole right now."You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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Originally posted by Steve 2.0 View PostI agree with your post. I know of one RJ poster who won't. I'll let you guess who it is. (It's onejay)
I recall a line from a book. "In a way, the world was created to give you a place to stand." The hero in that story knew why he was born and a great deal of the many thousands of years long struggle that culminated in his birth. I think we may be better off not knowing why we are here.
JLast edited by onejayhawk; 02-17-2019, 11:28 PM.Ad Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostWhy would I disagree? He has not said anything controversial or even outside the mainstream. Only a narcissist is not awed by the cosmos.
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ETA: you did start limiting your claim to the Galaxy, now that I look back. But you never conceded that we can't possibly know if we are the first intelligent life in the universe, or the point that it is extremely unlikely we are.Last edited by Sour Masher; 02-17-2019, 11:33 PM.
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You have also stated, with certainty, that the universe is not infinite, even though we have no way of knowing that.Last edited by Sour Masher; 02-17-2019, 11:34 PM.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostHave to not suggested that if intelligent life existed in the universe, it would be here by now, and/or, we would have seen evidence of it already?
Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostYou have also stated, with certainty, that the universe is not infinite, even though we have no way of knowing that.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostLife, in the single cellular sense I might grant you. That does not get you much. The universe is not infinte after all.
Fermi did not leave a paradox. He left a compelling argument that other life cannot exist based using the galaxy for a scale and several million years as the timeframe.
Time isn't infinite either.
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