'16 Democratic Nomination Thread

[swampdragon]

I can see that. Like you, I'm thinking that it's going to take something big to change the course of the status quo. Hillary seems predestined, which makes us looking toward more of the same. Sad that no real change can occur, at least not while so much of our process is bought.

Still not voting for her.

SO when Hillary runs against Cruz
you abstain and don't contribute to stopping him from being elected - SAD

[umjewman]

SO when Hillary runs against Cruz
you abstain and don't contribute to stopping him from being elected - SAD

Why bother? Cruz has this thing locked up already, whether you vote for Hillary or not. All hail Hodor!

[GwynnInTheHall]

SO when Hillary runs against Cruz
you abstain and don't contribute to stopping him from being elected - SAD

I never abstain, I'll vote Sanders regardless.


Intelligence should stop him from ever holding office again and Hodor.

[GwynnInTheHall]

Cruz is a lot of shitty things. Stupid, however, is not one of those things.

I meant the Voter's intelligence or lack thereof..............

[onejayhawk]

I can see that. Like you, I'm thinking that it's going to take something big to change the course of the status quo. Hillary seems predestined, which makes us looking toward more of the same. Sad that no real change can occur, at least not while so much of our process is bought.

Still not voting for her.

What's scary is that you and I are not voting for her for the same reason. Her politicies are secondary.

J

[onejayhawk]

New article from UVa, post Biden.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/biden-out/

Hillary now has no realistic threat from other candidates. Sanders does not poll well in the primaries following Iowa and New Hampshire, nor does he have many endorsements. Biden could have split the vote in Southern states by hijacking the black bloc, which really is one bloc. That defaults to Hillary now. In spite of the appearance that Sander is closing, he's a lap down.

Sorry guys. It's all over but the party. Only Hillary throwing in the towel will suffice. how likely is that?

J

[nullnor]

the party's over!?

[GwynnInTheHall]

As sad as I'll be if Sanders isn't the next POTUS, I'll be very amused that Hillary will win it even after this massive bunch of shit the GOP has throw at ther for almost a decade.

This benghazi hearing is a freaking farce, every person in connection with this should have to pay, out of pocket, back to the Taxpayers, every cent that was wasted during this bullshit..

[GwynnInTheHall]

So, does Sanders commitment to legalizing weed at a Federal level get him a sizable chunk of the millennial vote? I know it just got him every Boomer vote out there..............

[onejayhawk]

So, does Sanders commitment to legalizing weed at a Federal level get him a sizable chunk of the millennial vote? I know it just got him every Boomer vote out there..............

I'm committed to legal weed. What does that get me?

J

[nots]

Saw my first Bernie Sanders commercial tonight---very well done.

[onejayhawk]

I like the Stewie as President sim better.

J

[nots]

The Wall Street 9/11 answer was a strange one. Have to respect that she and her team doubled down on it yesterday. I really believe there isn't much she won't say or do ('I tried to join the Marines....) at this point.
Overall, I thought Sanders was very good again--I guess I'm biased, but I thought he won. Most of the focus groups felt the same way, but the political talking heads seemed to give Hillary the nod.
Probably about time for O'Malley to pull the plug--he seems way out of his league compared to the other two.

[GwynnInTheHall]

The Wall Street 9/11 answer was a strange one. Have to respect that she and her team doubled down on it yesterday. I really believe there isn't much she won't say or do ('I tried to join the Marines....) at this point.
Overall, I thought Sanders was very good again--I guess I'm biased, but I thought he won. Most of the focus groups felt the same way, but the political talking heads seemed to give Hillary the nod.
Probably about time for O'Malley to pull the plug--he seems way out of his league compared to the other two.

Once Sanders and Hillary hit head to head debate, sanders will close the gap as he'll have to get specific regarding her record toward Wall St and the War.

[The Feral Slasher]

Anyone see Hillary ducking questions about her ties to Wall Street by saying that she has female donors and that she represented New York during 9/11? What the hell was that? It reminded me literally of this:

Wow, that is bizzare

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ...ocratic-debate

The evening’s low-point involved a tussle about campaign finance, as Mr Sanders came close to accusing Mrs Clinton of being in hock to big banks on Wall Street, thanks to years of hefty donations from bankers and titans of finance. The Vermont senator boasted, as he so often does, of his army of 750,000 small donors who have sent him contributions.

Mrs Clinton’s reply combined indignation, an irrelevant appeal to feminist pride, and a bizarre riff about the September 11th attacks, by which she seemed to imply that taking money from big banks was her way of making sure that the terrorists behind that 2001 atrocity did not win. It was so odd, and so shameless, that it is worth quoting in full. Here is what the former First Lady, senator from New York and secretary of state said in reply to Mr Sanders, after charging that he had impugned her integrity:

“Oh, wait a minute, senator. You know, not only do I have hundreds of thousands of donors, most of them small. And I'm very proud that for the first time a majority of my donors are women, 60 percent. So, I represented New York, and I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan where Wall Street is. I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild. That was good for New York. It was good for the economy and it was a way to rebuke the terrorists who had attacked our country.”