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Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Are there no right wingers here who want to speak up on behalf is science/against right wing science denialism?
It just gets tiring seeing 5 on 1 or whatever. Even when debating verifiably egregiously stupid things posted. He's making y'all look bad. I'm hoping its only chancellor and 1J hanging out in the rubber room.Last edited by Teenwolf; 11-16-2018, 08:02 AM.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostAre there no right wingers here who want to speak up on behalf is science/against right wing science denialism?
It just gets tiring seeing 5 on 1 or whatever. Even when debating verifiably egregiously stupid things posted. He's making y'all look bad. I'm hoping its only chancellor and 1J hanging out in the rubber room.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostYou sound a lot like Trump. Page out of his playbook?
I am pissed off legitimately reading such egotistical tripe to think one person knows better than scientific consensus.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostGregg, what do you think of right wingers denying science?
I am pissed off legitimately reading such egotistical tripe to think one person knows better than scientific consensus.
If they are ethnic, agnostic, or quiet about it, it is ok. If they are white, Christian, or vocal not so much.
Your question sucks. It is like have you stopped beating your wife yet?
There is no denying that science is one of the most important tools for mankind. Sometimes really great tools are used for bad purposes or to further agendas. There is nothing wrong with questioning the science or the agendas.
As a society we have lost faith in our policeman, politicians, religions, scientists (not science), big business, doctors, lawyers, teachers. We can no longer take anything at face value.
As far as my own belief system, I am of the mind that all good things are from God. Science is a good thing. It is not infallible, nor is it god.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostIf they are ethnic, agnostic, or quiet about it, it is ok. If they are white, Christian, or vocal not so much.
Your question sucks. It is like have you stopped beating your wife yet?
There is no denying that science is one of the most important tools for mankind. Sometimes really great tools are used for bad purposes or to further agendas. There is nothing wrong with questioning the science or the agendas.
As a society we have lost faith in our policeman, politicians, religions, scientists (not science), big business, doctors, lawyers, teachers. We can no longer take anything at face value.
As far as my own belief system, I am of the mind that all good things are from God. Science is a good thing. It is not infallible, nor is it god.
Gregg, when did you stop beating your wife?!
Edit - not sure why you differentiate science/scientists... saying that the scientific community allows fraud on an institutional basis is saying that scientists are complicit in that fraud.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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The economic incentive to deny cigarette smoke harm was clear. The economic incentives to deny climate science are just as clear. By saying "sometimes science has an agenda" you muddy the waters of a vividly clear scenario, where the only ones possibly compromised are those commissioned by industry incentivized to hide damage.Larry David was once being heckled, long before any success. Heckler says "I'm taking my dog over to fuck your mother, weekly." Larry responds "I hate to tell you this, but your dog isn't liking it."
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Originally posted by Teenwolf View PostNo! WE... havent lost faith in science. Right wingers like chancellor are spreading bullshit, and it further bakes in the bullshit when folks like you defend it by saying "well, you each have an opinion, each as valid as the next." That's the fucking problem. Scientific consensus isn't an opinion! It's a massive collective understanding based on constant refinement of the facts as they're known.
Gregg, when did you stop beating your wife?!
Edit - not sure why you differentiate science/scientists... saying that the scientific community allows fraud on an institutional basis is saying that scientists are complicit in that fraud.
Do you consider medicine to be a large part of the scientific community?
On my wedding day as we were walking down the isle as man and wife, my wife leaned over and whispered in my ear "Remember if you ever cheat on me I will cut of your dick when you are sleeping." She hates abuse more than cheating.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostScience unto itself is not corrupted.I'm just here for the baseball.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostHardly. This "science" is far more religion and faith than fact. It's why repeated climate change claims (i.e, "Snowfalls are a thing of the past" or that the Himalayas would be snow free) have been repeated debunked. Many of the "peer reviewed" studies have used falsified data or corrupted the results (as did the most recent study published by Nature, which was almost instantly debunked).
Just remember, we had four years left...four years ago. Link: https://www.theguardian.com/environm...m-hansen-obama
Or, we had a decade left....in 2006: http://www.nbcnews.com/id/14834318/n.../#.W-51ROhKjIU
By the way, you'll note a common thread there: "Scientist" James/Jim Hansen
Oh, and we had ten years left in 1989, too: https://www.apnews.com/bd45c372caf118ec99964ea547880cd0
Greenhouse gases heat up the planet, the vast majority of greenhouse gases are man-made, either directly from burning of fossil fuels, or indirectly from land clearing/burning of rainforest for agriculture. As the population has increased, the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has increased and the average global temp has increased. All of this is proven"You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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Originally posted by chancellor View Postright now peer pressure is far stronger than money. It’s the only excuse for the fiasco of an article Nature recently published.
You seem to be implying that because there was an error in this one paper in Nature, the hundreds or thousands of other papers can't be trusted, even though no one has pointed out any errors in them.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostYou sound a lot like Trump. Page out of his playbook?
Originally posted by TranaGreg View Postso if science is unreliable / corrupt what should decision makers base their decisions on? intuition? scripture? good ol' common sense?
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my industrial air filter just arrived"You know what's wrong with America? If I lovingly tongue a woman's nipple in a movie, it gets an "NC-17" rating, if I chop it off with a machete, it's an "R". That's what's wrong with America, man...."--Dennis Hopper
"One should judge a man mainly from his depravities. Virtues can be faked. Depravities are real." -- Klaus Kinski
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostScience is as capable of having cults as any other human organizationIt certainly feels that way. But I'm distrustful of that feeling and am curious about evidence.
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