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Originally posted by eldiablo505Yes, just fucking exactly like Victor Cruz, except with worse stats on a shittier team. Christ, you Giants homers around here.....
And how's Mattie Schaub working out for you guys?
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Harry Carson, Giants HOF LB, said this weekend that Beckham impacts the Giants’ offense as much as LT impacted the Giants’ defense back in the day. I forgot that they were still using leather helmets when Harry was playing!
The Giants were 0-7 in Beckham’s first 7 starts. I don’t recall long NYG losing streaks with LT, for some reason.
all kidding aside, Beckham looks great but yes there is a ton of competition re dominating WRs. I think I'd pick that Notre Dame OL as Rookie of Year, though, for NFC.finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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Originally posted by eldiablo505I'm not pissed off any more than I normally am. I'm just here to keep the constant and relentless Giants homerism on RJ in check.
But, hey, let's argue again about who's a better QB: Eli Manning or Phillip Rivers.
Up until this point, Beckham is putting up stats really, really, really, really close to those that Cruz put up in his rookie year (although I'd argue Cruz's numbers were superior).
I don't even think that Beckham is the best rookie WR in the league (that would be Mike Evans) but he's very exciting.
Matt Schaub? Doug Gabriel? What the hell do those guys have to do with anything at all? Was I bragging that Jacoby Ford was the best blah blah I've ever seen? No, I wasn't. How's Ron Dayne working out for you? Oh, what's that? That has absolutely nothing to do with anything anyone claimed at any point? Oh, right.
So, yeah, if Beckham keeps this up he just might turn into Victor Cruz. Giants homers, set your outrage to "panties off"!
And Rivers is the better QB -- until the games actually matter.
At this point, I think Mike Evans should be ROY, although his star is certainly outshined by the bigger market Beckham. Evans, though, has produced like an absolute stud despite having absolutely no supporting cast and no QB, unlike Beckham. There's still more time, but I think Beckham, deservedly or not, would get the nod at this point because he's so much higher profile than Evans --- Beckham made that awesome catch, hangs out with LeBron, etc. Evans is just some dude stuck in America's armpit trying to make guys like McGlennon (who? right) look good.
Evans has been awesome, but he also has an All-Pro lining up next to him.
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NBCdianna 6:35pm via Twitter for iPad
Jay Gruden was told he will return next season per sources. More on News4 at 6. #Redskins
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and with only 4 years left on his deal!finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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NFL.com:
Odell Beckham has entered rarified territory.
We might have to go back to Randy Moss in 1998 to find another wide receiver who dominated at this level in his first season in the league. Beckham was positively transcendent against the Redskins on Sunday, finishing with 12 receptions for 143 yards and three touchdowns in a 24-13 win over the Redskins.
This is some special stuff, so we decided to check in with the NFL Media Research Team to get a better handle on Beckham's heroics. They came back with the following nuggets:
» Beckham has five 100-yard receiving games this season, the most by a Giants rookie in franchise history.
» Beckham finished Sunday with 972 receiving yards, passing Jeremy Shockey (894) for the most for a rookie in franchise history. Beckham did it in 10 games, Shockey in 15.
» Beckham has three games with at least 10 receptions, which ties him with (the other) Steve Smith (2009) for the most by a Giants wide receiver in one season.
» Beckham is the first rookie in NFL history with at least 12 receptions, 140 yards and three touchdowns in a single game.
» Beckham has 61 receptions for 866 yards and six touchdowns in the last seven games. That is the most receptions ever by a rookie in a seven-game span and the second-most receiving yards by a rookie in league history.
» Beckham is the first player with 10-plus receptions, 100-plus yards and a touchdown reception in three separate games of a four-game span.
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Originally posted by eldiablo505At this point, I think Mike Evans should be ROY, although his star is certainly outshined by the bigger market Beckham. Evans, though, has produced like an absolute stud despite having absolutely no supporting cast and no QB, unlike Beckham. There's still more time, but I think Beckham, deservedly or not, would get the nod at this point because he's so much higher profile than Evans --- Beckham made that awesome catch, hangs out with LeBron, etc. Evans is just some dude stuck in America's armpit trying to make guys like McGlennon (who? right) look good.
Seems to me that catch is a big part of it.Considering his only baseball post in the past year was bringing up a 3 year old thread to taunt Hornsby and he's never contributed a dime to our hatpass, perhaps?
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- NEP won division
- IND won division
- DEN won division
- ARI won playoff spot
- SF4 among those eliminated
AFC
x-Patriots 11-3
Bengals 9-4-1
x-Colts 10-4
x-Broncos 11-3
Wild card leaders: Steelers 9-5, Ravens 9-5, Chargers 8-6, Chiefs 8-6, Bills 8-6, Texans 7-7, Dolphins 7-7, Browns 7-7
Patriots in bye driver's seat
NFC
Cowboys 10-4
Lions 10-4
Saints 6-8 (sigh)
y-Cardinals 11-3
Wild card leaders: Seahawks 10-4, Packers 10-4, Eagles 9-5
beloved Seahawks, Packers, and Eagles all outside of division lead with 2 weeks left, but all 3 still have a shot
CHASING BEST DRAFT PICKS
2-12 - Raiders, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Titans
3-11 - Redskins, Jetsfinished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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WEEK 16
THURS NITE
TITANS 2-12 at JAGUARS 2-12
SAT AFT
EAGLES 9-5 at REDSKINS 3-11
SAT NITE
Chargers 9-5 at 49ers 7-7
SUN EARLY
Chiefs 8-6 at Steelers 9-5
LIONS 10-4 at BEARS 5-9
Ravens 9-5 at Texans 7-7
Browns 7-7 at Panthers 5-8-1
FALCONS 5-9 at SAINTS 6-8
Packers 10-4 at Buccaneers 2-12
PATRIOTS 11-3 at JETS 3-11
Vikings 6-8 at Dolphins 7-7
SUN LATER
Colts 10-4 at Cowboys 10-4
Bills 8-6 at Raiders 2-12
Giants 5-9 at Rams 6-8
SUN NITE
SEAHAWKS 10-4 at CARDINALS 11-3
MON NITE
Broncos 11-3 at Bengals 9-4-1finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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Originally posted by Pogues View PostWould you think Beckham was likely to get the nod had he not made that catch? That gave him a solid week of high-profile press, something Evans has not gotten this year.
Seems to me that catch is a big part of it.
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Originally posted by revo View PostThis is a special rookie class.Originally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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