The Athletics have fired manager Bob Geren and named Bob Melvin interim manager.
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After former Broncos quarterback Brian Griese sprained his ankle and said he was tripped on the stairs of his home by his golden retriever, Bella: “The dog stood up on his hind legs and gave him a push? You might want to get rid of that dog, or put him in the circus, one of the two.”Tags: None
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Originally posted by Hammer View PostThe Athletics have fired manager Bob Geren and named Bob Melvin interim manager.
Has anyone considered the idea that perhaps the managers aren't the problem?
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Originally posted by Don Quixote View PostSame old story in Oakland--Billy hires a manager (this one a long-time friend), gives him a roster full of mediocrity, team performs as expected, Billy fires the manager, rinse and repeat.
Suzuki: .662 (Career before 2011: .711)
Barton: .603 (Career .768)
Ellis: .533 (Career .740)
Pennington: .653 (Career .699)
Kouzmanoff: .615 (Career .727)
Willingham: .755 (Career .841)
Crisp: .689 (Career .745)
DeJesus: .690 (Career .787)
Matsui: .577 (Career .848)
The team as a whole has a collective line of .238/.304/.346 (.650 OPS). I think it is safe to say that EVERY single hitter is playing way below expectations. Whether that is the fault of the manager is debatable, but the team is definitely under-performing, and not playing up to expectations. The pitching has been excellent, despite half the staff on the DL. If the hitting was even close to average, or close to their career rates, this team would be in first place.
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Originally posted by OaklandA's View PostRoster performs as expected ?! Here are the 2011 and career OPS for each starter:
Suzuki: .662 (Career before 2011: .711)
Barton: .603 (Career .768)
Ellis: .533 (Career .740)
Pennington: .653 (Career .699)
Kouzmanoff: .615 (Career .727)
Willingham: .755 (Career .841)
Crisp: .689 (Career .745)
DeJesus: .690 (Career .787)
Matsui: .577 (Career .848)
The team as a whole has a collective line of .238/.304/.346 (.650 OPS). I think it is safe to say that EVERY single hitter is playing way below expectations. Whether that is the fault of the manager is debatable, but the team is definitely under-performing, and not playing up to expectations. The pitching has been excellent, despite half the staff on the DL. If the hitting was even close to average, or close to their career rates, this team would be in first place.
Coco has a career 95 OPS+ and he's at 91. Willingham is at 120/108. Not good, but maybe not as bad as it looks.
Honestly I think the biggest issue this year was the bullpen and Geren's blow-ups with Fuentes (whether his fault or not) definitely didn't help. I think he's probably worthy of another shot down the road, maybe with a couple years as a bench coach for experience.
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Originally posted by joncarlos View PostI'm not saying you're wrong, but age and park effects are a pretty big factor here. Players who appear to be underperforming may not be.
Coco has a career 95 OPS+ and he's at 91. Willingham is at 120/108. Not good, but maybe not as bad as it looks.
Honestly I think the biggest issue this year was the bullpen and Geren's blow-ups with Fuentes (whether his fault or not) definitely didn't help. I think he's probably worthy of another shot down the road, maybe with a couple years as a bench coach for experience.After former Broncos quarterback Brian Griese sprained his ankle and said he was tripped on the stairs of his home by his golden retriever, Bella: “The dog stood up on his hind legs and gave him a push? You might want to get rid of that dog, or put him in the circus, one of the two.”
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Originally posted by joncarlos View PostI'm not saying you're wrong, but age and park effects are a pretty big factor here. Players who appear to be underperforming may not be.
Coco has a career 95 OPS+ and he's at 91. Willingham is at 120/108. Not good, but maybe not as bad as it looks.
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