Hosmer to the Padres

[pitbull]

With Meyers to LF this leaves Margot in CF and Renfroe in RF with Pirela, Cordero, Jankowski and Szczur competing for back-up roles. So Pirela looks like the biggest hit on PT. Even if they move him to play 2B Spangenberg and Asuaje are also competing for PT. The Padres line-up is starting to look half-way decent.

[mgwiz22]

Turns out that Boras knew what he was doing...again. Instead of the 7/140 floated for months, he actually got 8/144. A little less in AAV, but an extra year for a slightly above middling 1st baseman. Not a franchise killer for the Pads, but not a winner by any means either, IMO.

Getting an extra year for an additional 4 million doesn't seem like an ingenious move to me but we don't know what was actually on the table.

[fuhrdog]

Getting an extra year for an additional 4 million doesn't seem like an ingenious move to me but we don't know what was actually on the table.

In most years it looks like a decent deal but the way this off season is going I think they could have spent that kind of money/years more wisely. While not as good, Alonso for 2/16 or Moreland for 2/13 would have been my preference. Eduardo Nunez goes for 1/4M, Frazier 2/17M...this is the off season to get some of these guys who you can flip at the trade deadline.

[Hornsby]

Getting an extra year for an additional 4 million doesn't seem like an ingenious move to me but we don't know what was actually on the table.

It's all about the years and security for the player...do you take a 3 year deal for a higher AAV? And then what happens when you suffer an injury that either erodes your skills or cuts your career short? You lose millions. Look at the contract that Houston signed Singleton to a few years back...10 million over 5 years, and now he's been cut by the club. The player got paid no matter what happens.

That's why Darvish took the Cubs deal...they offered the extra year(s), at pretty much the same money. Don't know if the Cubs were Yu's 1st choice, but the contract made it virtually impossible to turn down.

[Roy Hobbs]

Not good for Hosmer's fantasy value IMO.

[Ken]

Not good for Hosmer's fantasy value IMO.

This is a good topic to go over here. I tend to agree with you that he may take a hit in his value.

Myers definitely improved in fantasy when he moved to SD, although that may have just been a natural progression.

[pitbull]

Not good for Hosmer's fantasy value IMO.

He is coming from a pitcher's park so there might not be that much of a difference in his fantasy stats. If I have this right Kauffman is a little more extreme than Petco in the ratings. I'm sure there are others here that can go more into this than me.

[onejayhawk]

He is coming from a pitcher's park so there might not be that much of a difference in his fantasy stats. If I have this right Kauffman is a little more extreme than Petco in the ratings. I'm sure there are others here that can go more into this than me.

There is a significant difference. Kaufmann is a bit of a pitcher's park (0.926 in 2017) but Petco is severe (0.828). Both are dreadful HR parks, but Petco is worse. The main Kaufmann is better for BA and much better for the extra base.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/year/2017

One thing to consider for the Padres generally. This is a big defensive upgrade.

J

[Ken]

There is a significant difference. Kaufmann is a bit of a pitcher's park (0.926 in 2017) but Petco is severe (0.828). Both are dreadful HR parks, but Petco is worse. The main Kaufmann is better for BA and much better for the extra base.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/year/2017

One thing to consider for the Padres generally. This is a big defensive upgrade.

J

It's always interesting to me how fickle park factors are. If you go back to 2016 Petco was a hitter's park (1.014)

[madducks]

It's always interesting to me how fickle park factors are. If you go back to 2016 Petco was a hitter's park (1.014)

I seem to recall reading something about how changes to neighboring buildings changed the way the ball carried at Petco Park in recent years.

[onejayhawk]

It's always interesting to me how fickle park factors are. If you go back to 2016 Petco was a hitter's park (1.014)

And Kaufmann was still more of a hitter's park 2016 (1.171). In 2015 KC was a hitter's park and SD was pitcher's park, but no so pronounced. In 2014 KC was a hitter's park and SD just missed worst hitter's park in baseball. Five years straight, Kaufmann > Petco.

I seem to recall reading something about how changes to neighboring buildings changed the way the ball carried at Petco Park in recent years.

Not if the HR are a guide. Except for 2013, HR have been dreadful. That year Petco was the toughest run in baseball, but HR were almost neutral.

J

[cavebird]

I think the park factors are sometimes too correlated to the teams that play there. The numbers try to edit that out, but it is not always effective.

[DMT]

I think the park factors are sometimes too correlated to the teams that play there. The numbers try to edit that out, but it is not always effective.

Agreed.

[pitbull]

There is a significant difference. Kaufmann is a bit of a pitcher's park (0.926 in 2017) but Petco is severe (0.828). Both are dreadful HR parks, but Petco is worse. The main Kaufmann is better for BA and much better for the extra base.

http://www.espn.com/mlb/stats/parkfactor/_/year/2017

One thing to consider for the Padres generally. This is a big defensive upgrade.

J

I checked this site out when I googled pitcher's park. That is where I got my info from so looks like it varies from ESPN.

http://www.parkfactors.com/KC