*** VD2 Draft Thread ***

[johnnya24]

Draft Order:

1. Riff Raff
2. SDS
3. Revo
4. Johnny
5. DMT
6. Feral Slasher
7. Long John
8. Pogues
9. Frae
10. TS Garp
11. Hacko
12. Eldiablo
13. Controller Jacobs
14. mjl
15. Heyelander

[johnnya24]

VD2 Rules:

Format:

Decades (see rule 1a)
KO's (see rule 14)
Multi Scoring (see 5b)
15 Hitters / 12 Pitchers (see 1b) (changed from 14 Hitters / 11 Pitchers after a false start)

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1a. Players from all time periods are eligible to be drafted. Each team may not select more than one hitter and one pitcher from each decade. A player is assigned to a decade based on the best season selection. The decade assignment cannot be changed once the pick is made. For the purposes of this rule, the decades are defined as 1871-1879, 1880-1889, 1890-1899, 1900-1909, 1910-1919, 1920-1929, 1930-1939, 1940-1949, 1950-1959, 1960-1969, 1970-1979, 1980-1989, 1990-1999, 2000-2009 & 2010-2011. For pitchers only, 1871-1889 are combined into a single decade.

1b. Each team shall consist of 27 players (15H & 12P), comprised of the following positions: C, C, 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, CI, MI, OF, OF, OF, OF, OF, UT, UT, 12 x P. The UT positions must be filled by a hitter.

2. Qualifications for players

a. To be eligible for the draft, a player must meet the following requirements:

i. There are no career minimums to be met. A player must have at least one qualifying season, as explained in Rule 2.a.ii.

ii. The player must have an eligible season. For a hitter's "best season", the hitter must have at least 100 ABs during the season. To be an eligible season for a pitcher's "best season", the pitcher must have at least 100 IP or 40 appearances during the season.

b. Hitter Positional requirements

i. For a hitter to be eligible for a position, he must have played 200 games at that position. If a hitter has not played 200 games at any position, then the position that player has played the most games at will be considered their eligible position. If you choose to take a player who has the most games played at pitcher or designated hitter (and does not have any other position where they met the 200 game minimum) then that player only qualifies for the UT slot.

ii. To be eligible at CI or MI, the player must be eligible at 1B or 3B, or 2B or SS, respectively. To be eligible at INF, a player must be eligible at any of the 4 positions. Teams cannot add the games played at 2B and SS to obtain MI eligibility for a player, for example. However, there is no games played based eligibility requirement for the UT. The only requirement is the 100 season ABs.

3. There will be a team career IP requirement of 17000 IP. Failure to meet that minimum requirement will result in one point in career ERA and career WHIP. The career ERA and career WHIP of the penalized team will be used as normal for the purposes of determining the standings of the other teams in those categories, i.e., the penalty will be applied after the standings are determined for those categories.

4. The draft will be conducted in the form of a standard snake-draft, with draft order randomly determined at the beginning.

5. Scoring Categories

a. The scoring categories are the standard 5x5 for career and the "best season" as defined by these rules. These categories are AVG, HR, RBI, Runs and SB for hitters, and ERA, WHIP, Wins, Saves, and Ks for pitchers. At the time that each player is drafted, the drafting team must announce the season it is choosing for that player's "best season." It cannot be changed once selected unless it is an obvious typo. A pick without a season mentioned is not a complete pick.

b. The "official" winner will be the team with the highest total when multiplying the points scored in each of the 20 categories together.

6. If a team backs itself into a corner somehow and is not able to draft any eligible players to complete its team, the blank slot will count as zeros in all categories. Any such team will also have fifteen (15) points deducted from their final score to account for any advantage in ERA, WHIP or AVG that such an empty slot might give. In addition, if anyone runs past their 12 hour clock, then shows up in the Pen but doesn't pick or post why they can't, they are subject to a one point deduction from their final score, if an (absolute) majority of teams vote to apply the penalty in any given case.

7. "The John Montgomery Ward Rule." Players who qualify to be drafted as both hitters and pitchers are treated as two separate players. They can be drafted by one team as a pitcher and another as a hitter. They must qualify separately in each category to be eligible in that category. A team may draft a player twice if they so choose to use their wild card letters in such a manner.

8. If any ambiguity is discovered in the rules, the ambiguity will be resolved by the committee of three as determined in the VD XVIII discussion thread. Their decisions are binding and final.

9. We allow 12 hours between picks during week day periods, with an extra 5 hours added if the clock runs past midnight EST. We don't count weekends as many will not have access, or be able to check up on things. Weekday holidays are considered as on the clock unless otherwise agreed upon beforehand. This rule is intended as a guideline encouraging consideration for the other drafters. If you will not be able to make a pick within the allotted time, it is appropriate that you let someone know via PM or phone message.

10. If your pick is going to be due soon, and you think you might not be around, you can either tell us to skip your pick, or better still, PM a list of possible selections to someone else, and they can pick for you. It's better to PM picks to someone at the other end of the draft. In that way it won't affect whom the people around you will be taking in the mean time (no one can steal your picks!!).

11. We have a policy of not talking about players before they have been selected. Occasionally this will be unavoidable ... but as a rule try not to throw out the names of unselected players.

12. Please put your picks in BOLD so it's easier to catch up on who's been selected. Also, include the round and pick number.

13. If a player makes an invalid or incorrect selection, he will have 1 hour to correct the pick from the time the error is noted in the thread. After that time has passed, the next player will be on the clock to pick. Anyone who is skipped may reselect their pick whenever they return from all players still available at that time.

14. From the beginning of round 7 until the end of round 18, each player has the option to Knock Out (KO) up to 6 players from the player pool. This is optional. You can only KO a maximum of 1 player per round, and only during your normal allotted pick. The "John Montgomery Ward" rule also applies to KO's (see Rule 7), so please designate if the player being KO'd is a hitter to a pitcher ... 99% of the time it will be obvious, but this will avoid any confusion or unnecessary delays.

As decided by an in-draft poll: Any player can be KO'd. But if that player has an eligible year in an exempt decade (see below), they can still be drafted for that decade. For instance, if Frank Robinson is KO'd, he can no longer be drafted as a 1960's or 1970's player. But he can still be drafted as a 1950's player.

i.e.

off_the_wall picks

8.03 Jamie Quirk C

KO Antonio Alfonseca P

The following decades are not eligible for KO picks:

Hitting: 1870, 1900, 1910, 1940, 1950 & 2010's
Pitching: 1890, 1920, 1930, 1940 & 1950 & 2010's

[Riff Raff]

1.01 - Babe Ruth - 1921
Sorry for the delay. Been dealing with a few inches of water in the basement. Mega storm last night ...

[SeaDogStat]

1.02 Ty Cobb OF 1911

Sorry for the delay... had to deal with the disappointment of RR selecting Babe Ruth again after teasing me with the promise of a 3rd different #1 pick...

[revo]

1.03.....Walter Johnson, P, 1913

come on ride the train, let's ride it.....woo woo

[johnnya24]

I'll stick ...

1.04 Ted Williams OF 1949

150-43-159-1-0.343

[DMT]

Same pick for me, Musial.

[The Feral Slasher]

1.06 Christy Mathewson - P - 1908

[Long John]

1.07 Lou Gehrig - 1B - 1927

[Pogues]

1.08 Charley Radbourn, P, 1884

Really...I know what I'm doing.

[frae]

1.09 Cy Young P 1892

[TS Garp]

1.10 Pete Alexander, P, 1915

1915: 31 wins, 1.22 era, 0.842 whip, 241 k's, 3 saves
Career: 373 wins, 2.56 era, 1.121 whip, 2198 k's, 32 saves

[hacko]

1.11honus Wagner - ss - 1905

[Controller Jacobs]

1.12 Barry Bonds 2001 OF bondsba01
73 HR

[mjl]

hey, my original first pick got pilfered!

1.14 Alex Rodriguez, SS, 2010