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  • The Irony of the US Military/Armed Forces

    So, I'm not sure how many RJers have served. I did for a brief moment in the 80s in the USAF. My brother as well and I have 2 Nephews who still serve. 2 Uncles who served and I imagine others in here share similar connections with the Military/Armed forces.

    Now the Military is the Largest recipient of US tax dollars outpacing every other discretionary entity by a wide margin. So you'd think, the Military would reflect the Ideals of the country and populace it defends and it just might--However. There is a notion that supporting the Military is a Right Wing, Conservative hard core vale. And I believe it is. I also think a vast majority of Left leaning folks also support the Military even though they may disagree with some policies and the amount of our budget that is dedicated to it.

    So it stands to reason the Military should be Uber Constitutional Rights/Free Market Capitalism.

    It Is Not.

    First, the fiscal structure is pretty socialist. Your pay is NOT free market nor based on ability, it's rank and time in service. If you're an E-3 it doesn't matter WHAT your job is--you get paid the same, sure there's a bonus for travel and combat, but a mechanical engineer at E-3 makes the same as the E-3 serving you shit on a shingle in the base commissary. On top of that, every service member is provided housing, food, health insurance and free education. This is true of EVERY service member even if all you do is drive people around the base or sling hash. Socialist, VERY Socialist and yet we contend that our Military is the FINEST fighting force in the world. Produced in a socialist fiscal model. Now the veracity of being the Finest can be debated, but the socialist fiscal model, really can't be.

    Second, the Military fights to defend our constitutional rights--you're freedom of speech, expression, to protest, own a gun and the like. However, if you serve you are subject to the UCMJ on top of all federal/State and Municipal statutes. The UCMJ is the Military's set of rules/laws which you agree to abide by upon enlisting. They are purposely vague and somewhat arbitrary. But even if you believe otherwise what they absolutely do is--force servicemembers to give up some of the rights they have as a civilian. You follow orders or you suffer the consequences--period. No talking your way out of it, no going over someone's head. They have you by the balls and if you give them a reason, they will squeeze--hard.

    They tell you to move to Oklahoma, you move. They tell you what job you'll be doing, you do it. They tell you this word is not to be used on base and while on duty, you don't use it. Sure you can take it up the chain of command, but once a decision has been made by your immediate supervisor, good luck with getting a different answer. It rarely happens.

    Not that any of this is new to most of you, I was just swirling things around in my mind, like livable wages, basic Monthly, income, Food insecurities, healthcare, education--you know the other shit in my head besides 24/7 trade ideas in my roto leagues. And in doing so, found it interesting/ironic, that the MOST American thing Right Wing Patriots point to with Pride and Honor, runs contrary to their Live Free or Die mantra.

    That is All.
    Last edited by GwynnInTheHall; 05-14-2021, 04:49 PM.
    If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
    Martin Luther King, Jr.

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    Why does the right hate our military? How dare this bowtie-wearing weenie call Milley -- appointed by Former Guy, mind you -- a "pig?"

    "Veterans associations, furious vets and military personnel are calling on their insurance company to yank ads from Fox News and Tucker Carlson’s program after he called Gen. Mark Milley, a “pig” for schooling Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) during congressional testimony.

    Carlson went after the nation’s highest-ranking military officer on Thursday, saying Milley’s “not only a pig, but stupid” after the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff put Gaetz in his place. Milley told lawmakers — most pointedly Gaetz — that it’s important for military personnel to be “open minded,” “widely read” and educated about issues, including about Critical Race Theory.

    “What is wrong with understanding? Having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend?” an irritated Milley asked Wednesday during the House Armed Services Committee hearing, which left Gaetz shaking his head in disgust.

    Carlson came back Friday to again attack Milley, slamming his remarks as “disgraceful.”

    Now veterans, service members and other customers are calling on the United Services Automobile Association (USAA), a banking and insurance company which primarily serves vets and their families, to stop supporting Carlson’s show with advertising dollars."
    "So USAA, is this who you advertise with?" asks a tweet by Veterans For Responsibility, referring to a major insurer of service members and veterans.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by revo View Post
      Why does the right hate our military? How dare this bowtie-wearing weenie call Milley -- appointed by Former Guy, mind you -- a "pig?"

      "Veterans associations, furious vets and military personnel are calling on their insurance company to yank ads from Fox News and Tucker Carlson’s program after he called Gen. Mark Milley, a “pig” for schooling Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) during congressional testimony.

      Carlson went after the nation’s highest-ranking military officer on Thursday, saying Milley’s “not only a pig, but stupid” after the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff put Gaetz in his place. Milley told lawmakers — most pointedly Gaetz — that it’s important for military personnel to be “open minded,” “widely read” and educated about issues, including about Critical Race Theory.

      “What is wrong with understanding? Having some situational understanding about the country for which we are here to defend?” an irritated Milley asked Wednesday during the House Armed Services Committee hearing, which left Gaetz shaking his head in disgust.

      Carlson came back Friday to again attack Milley, slamming his remarks as “disgraceful.”

      Now veterans, service members and other customers are calling on the United Services Automobile Association (USAA), a banking and insurance company which primarily serves vets and their families, to stop supporting Carlson’s show with advertising dollars."
      https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/veter...004549747.html
      It's all a part of the grand plan, if they can co opt military personnel against it's leadership, it will be easier to incite revolt amongst the ranks should they again attempt a coup after losing an election. It goes hand in hand with sowing mistrust in the electoral process and the veracity of the press and anyone else who stands in their fascist ways.
      If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

      Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
      Martin Luther King, Jr.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
        It's all a part of the grand plan, if they can co opt military personnel against it's leadership, it will be easier to incite revolt amongst the ranks should they again attempt a coup after losing an election. It goes hand in hand with sowing mistrust in the electoral process and the veracity of the press and anyone else who stands in their fascist ways.
        Neither Matt Gaetz nor Tucker Carlson are anywhere near that smart.
        I'm just here for the baseball.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by chancellor View Post
          Neither Matt Gaetz nor Tucker Carlson are anywhere near that smart.
          LOL, that's true.

          And now Former Guy is in on it, bashing the military at his "rally" on Saturday.

          Also, veteran's groups are calling on USAA to suspend advertising on Carlson's & Ingraham's show. Let's see how this one goes.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by chancellor View Post
            Neither Matt Gaetz nor Tucker Carlson are anywhere near that smart.
            Agreed, but if I can make the connections--you know there are others out there who can and have done the same on the Right. Like has been mentioned and I agree with, a much more Intelligent version of Trump could have done quite a bit more damage than trippinovrmadick accomplished.
            If I whisper my wicked marching orders into the ether with no regard to where or how they may bear fruit, I am blameless should a broken spirit carry those orders out upon the innocent, for it was not my hand that took the action merely my lips which let slip their darkest wish. ~Daniel Devereaux 2011

            Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
            Martin Luther King, Jr.

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