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    RJ consensus worst Democratic candidate?

    Is there a clear cut winner/loser in here?

    Of the Big Four who is the one that should be out and why?
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    Who are your Big Four? I see Sanders, Warren, Biden, Buttigieg and Bloomberg as still relevant. (If Klobuchar can only finish fifth in Iowa, she's done, and Yang and Steyer were even worse.)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
      Who are your Big Four? I see Sanders, Warren, Biden, Buttigieg and Bloomberg as still relevant. (If Klobuchar can only finish fifth in Iowa, she's done, and Yang and Steyer were even worse.)
      I agree. Call it a big 5.

      First, what are the parameters for "worst candidate"? I'll presume you mean the "worst candidate to unite the Democratic party and build a coalition to beat Trump"? Or do you mean "which Democratic candidate would make the worst POTUS, regardless of their chances to beat Trump"?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Teenwolf View Post
        I agree. Call it a big 5.

        First, what are the parameters for "worst candidate"? I'll presume you mean the "worst candidate to unite the Democratic party and build a coalition to beat Trump"? Or do you mean "which Democratic candidate would make the worst POTUS, regardless of their chances to beat Trump"?
        It's really two different questions, for sure.

        I think Mayor Pete is the worst candidate to build a coalition to beat Trump. The low African-American polling (I mean really low) just seems to be insurmountable to win the general election. There are also plenty of closet homophobes who might actually vote Democrat that will either vote Trump or sit home, particularly in some swing states. So, I think he's got the lowest odds at winning if he were the nominee. I don't think Pete can be as captivating as Obama to get prejudiced (but potential) voters to overcome those prejudices.

        Worst president, if victorious? Hell if I know.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by umjewman View Post



          Worst president, if victorious? Hell if I know.
          Can't be worse than the current idiot.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by umjewman View Post
            It's really two different questions, for sure.

            I think Mayor Pete is the worst candidate to build a coalition to beat Trump. The low African-American polling (I mean really low) just seems to be insurmountable to win the general election. There are also plenty of closet homophobes who might actually vote Democrat that will either vote Trump or sit home, particularly in some swing states. So, I think he's got the lowest odds at winning if he were the nominee. I don't think Pete can be as captivating as Obama to get prejudiced (but potential) voters to overcome those prejudices.

            Worst president, if victorious? Hell if I know.
            I think he'd be worst on both questions.
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            • #7
              I think Mayor Pete has a bright future, but just seems like he jumped from A-ball to the big leagues. Heck, the city he was Mayor of is not that much bigger than where I live, and I could not imagine for the life of me our Mayor running for President.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Steve 2.0 View Post
                Can't be worse than the current idiot.
                That's the most important point. Every single one of them would be worlds better than Trump. I don't even have to hesitate a second on that.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by revo View Post
                  I think Mayor Pete has a bright future, but just seems like he jumped from A-ball to the big leagues. Heck, the city he was Mayor of is not that much bigger than where I live, and I could not imagine for the life of me our Mayor running for President.


                  I have trouble thinking he can make this big of a jump.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by revo View Post
                    I think Mayor Pete has a bright future, but just seems like he jumped from A-ball to the big leagues. Heck, the city he was Mayor of is not that much bigger than where I live, and I could not imagine for the life of me our Mayor running for President.
                    It's still far more relevant experience for the presidency than, say, real estate mogul/reality TV star.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by B-Fly View Post
                      It's still far more relevant experience for the presidency than, say, real estate mogul/reality TV star.
                      Oh, I don't disagree. It's just sad that Pete may be the best the Democrats have to offer. Part of the reason he's doing well is his age.
                      "Looks like I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue.
                      - Steven McCrosky (Lloyd Bridges) in Airplane

                      i have epiphanies like that all the time. for example i was watching a basketball game today and realized pom poms are like a pair of tits. there's 2 of them. they're round. they shake. women play with them. thus instead of having two, cheerleaders have four boobs.
                      - nullnor, speaking on immigration law in AZ.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by In the Corn View Post
                        Oh, I don't disagree. It's just sad that Pete may be the best the Democrats have to offer. Part of the reason he's doing well is his age.
                        Perspective. I see him as more of the same IE: Centrist, Status Quo, Etc. and in that absolutely NOT the best thing for the Party.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                          Perspective. I see him as more of the same IE: Centrist, Status Quo, Etc. and in that absolutely NOT the best thing for the Party.
                          You may be right about the best thing for the Party.

                          But is the best thing for the Party the best thing for the country?

                          And which is more important?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Ken View Post
                            You may be right about the best thing for the Party.

                            But is the best thing for the Party the best thing for the country?

                            And which is more important?
                            The Country, of course. But again--I'm sure there are differing perspectives on that as well.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by GwynnInTheHall View Post
                              The Country, of course. But again--I'm sure there are differing perspectives on that as well.
                              I think a centrist is the best for the country.

                              Although I'm a little biased as a centrist.

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