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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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Originally posted by Hornsby View PostNo, dealing for a player who had the potential to be the best in the league in a year or two was NOT the intent of the rule...it was a case where both parties would have been winners. But you and Randy voted veto because the deal didn't benefit you personally, not because it was a bad deal.
You could trade for anyone so long as you gave and received equivalent current year value. There was nothing like equivalent value for the remainder of that year, hence a rule violation. You were unethical and close to cheating and it broke up the league.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostI never said it was the intent of the rule. I said the rule was to prevent dumps.
You could trade for anyone so long as you gave and received equivalent current year value. There was nothing like equivalent value for the remainder of that year, hence a rule violation. You were unethical and close to cheating and it broke up the league.
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The point is simple...there should never be a veto provision in a league IMO, unless there is CLEAR evidence of collusion."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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In all the years I have played I think there was only 1 trade vetoed. It occurred in 12TO 1st season. Since I was the Commish I mostly remember mostly trying to calm the stormy seas. It was not much fun. You have to be careful on vetoing trades and just can't do it because it doesn't benefit your team. It has to be collusion which is very hard to prove or you have a owner with no clue in the ocean with a shark circling him.
This trade doesn't show either and has been proven to be fairly close. It obviously is not Onejayhawk's opinion on this but he asked if the trade should be vetoed and was given several answers apparently not to his liking. Perhaps it just time to move on.
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Originally posted by onejayhawkFine. The rule was clear and the violation was obvious. Your defense of breaking the rule was, and is, unethical.
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Vetos are a garbage way to run a league, and as was the case in the basketball league, a perfect way to drive it out of business."Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
- Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1821)
"Your shitty future continues to offend me."
-Warren Ellis
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I will grant I did not consider it at all close but also not abusive. That at least has been clarified. Regardless, the vote went against it.
I have been in leagues where trades were vetoed and both players were thought to be getting the shaft.
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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I'll bite: the vote went against what?finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View PostI'll bite: the vote went against what?
Nick Senzel Cin - 3B NA + Carlos Correa Hou - SS
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Yasiel Puig Cin - OF + Sean Newcomb Atl - SP
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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so the deal was approved, or was it vetoed?finished 10th in this 37th yr in 11-team-only NL 5x5
own picks 1, 2, 5, 6, 9 in April 2022 1st-rd farmhand draft
won in 2017 15 07 05 04 02 93 90 84
SP SGray 16, TWalker 10, AWood 10, Price 3, KH Kim 2, Corbin 10
RP Bednar 10, Bender 10, Graterol 2
C Stallings 2, Casali 1
1B Votto 10, 3B ERios 2, 1B Zimmerman 2, 2S Chisholm 5, 2B Hoerner 5, 2B Solano 2, 2B LGarcia 10, SS Gregorius 17
OF Cain 14, Bader 1, Daza 1
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Originally posted by Judge Jude View Postso the deal was approved, or was it vetoed?
Originally posted by Ken View PostAfter reading this thread I'm just glad I'm not in any league with 1J
That was a long time ago. Does anyone remember Sandbox?
JAd Astra per Aspera
Oh. In that case, never mind. - Wonderboy
GITH fails logic 101. - bryanbutler
Bah...OJH caught me. - Pogues
I don't know if you guys are being willfully ignorant, but... - Judge Jude
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Originally posted by onejayhawk View PostThat's not a rebuttal. You asked me why I use that setting. That's why.
You keep saying, "that close together" when they are not very close together. It is exactly, "statistically significant" in the rigorous meaning of that phrase. In your terms, they are on different tiers.
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Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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Originally posted by Kevin Seitzer View PostYes .---------------------------------------------
Champagne for breakfast and a Sherman in my hand !
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The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
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