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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Quixote View Post
    Do you think that's the "red line" for Amaro? Playoffs or fired?
    Not necessarily, but if the team shows no signs of improvement over last year, that might be enough to boot him. We don't really know. Phillies ownership (made up of a bunch of different high-society rich folks) tends to give GMs a lot of rope -- but also never tips their hand publicly. See Thomas, Lee and Wade, Ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onejayhawk View Post
    Is this the same organization that was in the World Series recently? The name is the same, but the rest doesn't seem to fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    They got old. It happens.
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    Amaro is very well connected with ownership, but unless some improvement is shown, he might find his way out the door. The team is hamstrung for the next 2-3 years by old guys getting paid what they used to be worth and by all the trades which were made over the past 5-6 years in which star players were added at the expense of good young minor leaguers. The result for now is that the minors need a few more years to rebound so they can begin anew! I wish they would follow a model where they actually groom and keep their stars, but win-now is what the ownership seems to favor.
    Bearin' up!

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    Re good young minor leaguers, none of the guys they traded away have set the world on fire. The real issue is after hitting on many impact players in the drafts of the late 90s and early 00s, the well went dry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik View Post
    Re good young minor leaguers, none of the guys they traded away have set the world on fire. The real issue is after hitting on many impact players in the drafts of the late 90s and early 00s, the well went dry.
    Agreed, although Singleton looks like the real deal and Cosart and Villar also look promising, so the Astros may have fared the best. Cleveland and Toronto ended up with little to show for Lee and Halladay.

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    But we are talking the minor league talent as evaluated at the time, not in hindsight of several years. Giving up all that talent was a topic of violent conversation at the time, if you remember. They were high level picks who left and it did gut the system. Now, in hindsight, Singleton, Cosart and a few more would look good coming up. This is not to say they don't have to do a better job drafting and developing, because they certainly do, especially among the hitters.
    Bearin' up!

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    I like Franco ... And then it's gonna be another three years or so before we know on anyone else.

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    Asche and Ruf also look like they have a future. Maybe not as superstars but possibly above-average players. Unfortunately there's a bit of a logjam at 1B and 3B on this team...
    In the best of times, our days are numbered, anyway. And it would be a crime against Nature for any generation to take the world crisis so solemnly that it put off enjoying those things for which we were presumably designed in the first place, and which the gravest statesmen and the hoarsest politicians hope to make available to all men in the end: I mean the opportunity to do good work, to fall in love, to enjoy friends, to sit under trees, to read, to hit a ball and bounce the baby.

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    The issue with Ruf is that he's a complete defensive liability anywhere but 1B, and they are not yet ready to admit they made a grave mistake at 1B and cut their losses.

    And then with Franco soon to emerge, you have 4 guys for 2 spots.

    This is why I wish the NL had voted for the DH back in 1979-80.

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