2K24: Cleveland Guardians

[GwynnInTheHall]

Plesac to the IL with a fractured right thumb. I can't imagine he's back before the standard 6 weeks for a break.

Injured while aggressively taking off his shirt...

[revo]

No surgery for Plesac, they're going to hope he can throw in 3 weeks. So maybe 4 weeks is best case scenario?

[revo]

Shane Bieber out at least 3 weeks with a shoulder strain.

[GwynnInTheHall]

And the hits just keep a comin.

[Ken]

And the hits just keep a comin.

With Bieber out that's certainly the case for opposing teams.

[GwynnInTheHall]

With Bieber out that's certainly the case for opposing teams.

But they now will have to start McKenzie..Oh wait.

[harmon]

But they now will have to start McKenzie..Oh wait.

After all of Tristan's misadventures this season, if ever there was a favorable start it was vs Mariners at home and he crapped the bed so badly I'll be surprised if we see him again before September.

[harmon]

Anibal Sanchez?

[Sour Masher]

I am sure it must be because I am tired and full of Scotch, but someone else me out here--is Karinchak getting the win tonight, even though he pitched the 8th innings, 3 innings after his team took the lead for good, the norm or the exception? He did pitch a perfect inning, but none of the relievers before him gave up a run either. In roto, he was the most effective reliever, but I don't recall if that is always the bench mark for scorers picking which reliever gets the win. Is it a rule to give it to the reliever that allows the fewest hits/walks, or is their more gray area? Is there clear guidelines for who is deemed most effective, is what I am asking, beyond runs given up, and is the tie breaker which reliever pitched when the team took the lead for good? I feel like I have seen that happen, but maybe not. I guess I am wondering if one of the other guys did not give up a hit or a walk, if they would have gotten the win over Karinchak, because they pitched closer to when the lead was taken.

[Hornsby]

I am sure it must be because I am tired and full of Scotch, but someone else me out here--is Karinchak getting the win tonight, even though he pitched the 8th innings, 3 innings after his team took the lead for good, the norm or the exception? He did pitch a perfect inning, but none of the relievers before him gave up a run either. In roto, he was the most effective reliever, but I don't recall if that is always the bench mark for scorers picking which reliever gets the win. Is it a rule to give it to the reliever that allows the fewest hits/walks, or is their more gray area? Is there clear guidelines for who is deemed most effective, is what I am asking, beyond runs given up, and is the tie breaker which reliever pitched when the team took the lead for good? I feel like I have seen that happen, but maybe not. I guess I am wondering if one of the other guys did not give up a hit or a walk, if they would have gotten the win over Karinchak, because they pitched closer to when the lead was taken.

Yeah, I did not understand this ruling at all. Cleveland had a 5 run lead after the 4th, Parker gave up a run in the 5th, so I can see not giving it to him...tough but understandable. Maton pitched the 6th and gave up a couple of hit, but also struck out the side with no damage. Witgren pitched the 7th with a walk, and then Karinchak pitched the 8th, still with a 5 run lead and gets the win???

Maton should have gotten the win if they weren't going to give it to Parker...makes no sense at all.

[Ken]

I am sure it must be because I am tired and full of Scotch, but someone else me out here--is Karinchak getting the win tonight, even though he pitched the 8th innings, 3 innings after his team took the lead for good, the norm or the exception? He did pitch a perfect inning, but none of the relievers before him gave up a run either. In roto, he was the most effective reliever, but I don't recall if that is always the bench mark for scorers picking which reliever gets the win. Is it a rule to give it to the reliever that allows the fewest hits/walks, or is their more gray area? Is there clear guidelines for who is deemed most effective, is what I am asking, beyond runs given up, and is the tie breaker which reliever pitched when the team took the lead for good? I feel like I have seen that happen, but maybe not. I guess I am wondering if one of the other guys did not give up a hit or a walk, if they would have gotten the win over Karinchak, because they pitched closer to when the lead was taken.

It's completely subjective and at the discretion of the official scorer.

[chancellor]

Probably because the official scorer was tired and full of Scotch. Which I can hardly object to, though my Scotch drinking days are pretty much over.

[Sour Masher]

Yeah, I did not understand this ruling at all. Cleveland had a 5 run lead after the 4th, Parker gave up a run in the 5th, so I can see not giving it to him...tough but understandable. Maton pitched the 6th and gave up a couple of hit, but also struck out the side with no damage. Witgren pitched the 7th with a walk, and then Karinchak pitched the 8th, still with a 5 run lead and gets the win???

Maton should have gotten the win if they weren't going to give it to Parker...makes no sense at all.

Yeah, Maton is who I had in mind as well. I am not complaining as I have Karinchak in the line up this week, but it was a pleasant and perplexing surprise.

[Sour Masher]

It's completely subjective and at the discretion of the official scorer.

So I just have to pay off the official scorer from now on to always give the win to my guys, got it.

[Sour Masher]

Probably because the official scorer was tired and full of Scotch. Which I can hardly object to, though my Scotch drinking days are pretty much over.

So I can pay off the official scorer with Scotch, got it.