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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Jude View Post
    Rockies splits sometimes are overrated

    and sometimes....
    DJ career .330 AVG at home, .264 on road.

    .387/.438/.885 for tOPS+ of 121, vs .311/.362/.673 for tOPS+ of 78
    A lot of Rockies hitters do worse than they should on the road, because the adjustment is rough. When they go to another team, they usually outperform their Rockies road stats. Hoping DJ falls into this group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joncarlos View Post
    A lot of Rockies hitters do worse than they should on the road, because the adjustment is rough. When they go to another team, they usually outperform their Rockies road stats. Hoping DJ falls into this group.
    Yes, agreed. I spent a fair amount of time looking into this back in the day when we acquired Dexter Fowler. People had the same concern about him, and it turned out not to be that big of a deal. My take on it is that the ball moves differently in thin air of Colorado, and it's just tough for players to adjust back and forth from that from one homestand/road trip to another.
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    the last study I saw showed NO improvement by Rockies hitters when they move to another team.

    it sounds good, on paper. and if wishing could make it so......

    and sample size of one (if that) is a little light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Jude View Post
    the last study I saw showed NO improvement by Rockies hitters when they move to another team.

    it sounds good, on paper. and if wishing could make it so......

    and sample size of one (if that) is a little light
    Do you, by chance, know how one can find that study? I'm all for evidence trumping anecdotes, but without reference to verify the credibility of the study, and to validate your memory, I'll take the word of the professional devoted to such things. Of course, it is also possible you are both right, by your phrasing, which is vague. It is possible your study was referring to overall numbers, and it seems perfectly obvious to me that a Coors hitter's overall numbers won't improve once going to another team. However, since that is so obvious, I assume the study you refer to is about what joncarlos actually referred to and Mike verified--the so-called "Coors Field Hangover Effect," which is about how playing in Coors makes away stats worse than they should be, and thus away numbers for Coors hitters are not a good baseline for future overall projections once they switch teams.

    FWIW, and that isn't much, every article I remember reading on the subject suggests that even if there is no hard proof of it yet, the circumstantial evidence for ""the Coors Field Hangover Effect" is compelling. It also seems perfectly reasonable and logical that hitting in the most unusual and extreme place in baseball would make it harder to adjust when then going on the road. It doesn't help that they end up going to the most extreme pitchers parks while playing in division. All of that would make it very surprising to me if Coors hitters road numbers don't improve at all once they switch teams. And again, that is what the previous two fellows were talking about.
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    Looking at past World Series winners and i just realized that the Yankees haven't been there in awhile (for them). They have played in at least one WS in every decade since the purchase of Babe Ruth. This season is their last chance to avoid being shut out in a decade for the first time in 100 years.

    Yankees WS record by decade:
    1903-1909 (none)
    1910-1919 (none)
    1920-1929 (3-3)
    1930-1939 (5-0)
    1940-1949 (4-1)
    1950-1959 (6-2)
    1960-1969 (2-3)
    1970-1979 (2-1)
    1980-1989 (0-1)
    1990-1999 (3-0)
    2000-2009 (2-2)
    2010-2019 (none?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by madducks View Post
    Looking at past World Series winners and i just realized that the Yankees haven't been there in awhile (for them). They have played in at least one WS in every decade since the purchase of Babe Ruth. This season is their last chance to avoid being shut out in a decade for the first time in 100 years.

    Yankees WS record by decade:
    1903-1909 (none)
    1910-1919 (none)
    1920-1929 (3-3)
    1930-1939 (5-0)
    1940-1949 (4-1)
    1950-1959 (6-2)
    1960-1969 (2-3)
    1970-1979 (2-1)
    1980-1989 (0-1)
    1990-1999 (3-0)
    2000-2009 (2-2)
    2010-2019 (none?)
    For Pete's Sake, my daughter is NINE and the Yankees haven't won the World Series in her lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joncarlos View Post
    For Pete's Sake, my daughter is NINE and the Yankees haven't won the World Series in her lifetime.
    Clearly it's your fault for procreating.
    I'm unconsoled I'm lonely, I am so much better than I used to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joncarlos View Post
    For Pete's Sake, my daughter is NINE and the Yankees haven't won the World Series in her lifetime.
    They have been replaced by the Red Sox.

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