*** VD 5 Commentary Thread ***

[Pogues]

I think the best plan is to change the Decade structure slightly to come in line with the Letters.

How about this (everyone has to use M and B twice):

In addition, everyone must draft every letter except X, and 3 from 5 QUIZY's. To make up the final 2 letters, each player must draft a second M and a second B.

Edit: OK ... I ended up changing both. Trying to avoid WC letters or Decades.

Ah...we HAVE to use our extra letters on one of two letters? I not like that part.

I guess I'm okay with boxing them in a bit, but to restrict to 2 letters...no. I'd rather see the top part of the alphaVDbet, around 6-8 letters.

[johnnya24]

Ah...we HAVE to use our extra letters on one of two letters? I not like that part.

I guess I'm okay with boxing them in a bit, but to restrict to 2 letters...no. I'd rather see the top part of the alphaVDbet, around 6-8 letters.

I am trying to avoid wildcards. Almost all WCs come from BCMSW ... so expanding the range of WCs to more letters means the same thing as having WCs.

The way I was looking at it was, there's no point doing letters and decades, then immediately watering it down. WCs kinda defeat the purpose.

Picking 2 B's and M's should bring the value of the letters down to about an R ... although they are so deep, probably more than that in a 10 person draft.

Well that was my thinking. I'm sure we'll get some more suggestions.

[The Feral Slasher]

I am trying to avoid wildcards. Almost all WCs come from BCMSW ... so expanding the range of WCs to more letters means the same thing as having WCs.

The way I was looking at it was, there's no point doing letters and decades, then immediately watering it down. WCs kinda defeat the purpose.

Picking 2 B's and M's should bring the value of the letters down to about an R ... although they are so deep, probably more than that in a 10 person draft.

Well that was my thinking. I'm sure we'll get some more suggestions.

I was kind of curious about the rationale -- but that sort of makes sense. Doesn't matter much to me as I'll probably use my wildcards way too early anyway. Have you guys ever had an LHP/RHP requirement ?

[heyelander]

I was kind of curious about the rationale -- but that sort of makes sense. Doesn't matter much to me as I'll probably use my wildcards way too early anyway. Have you guys ever had an LHP/RHP requirement ?

yeah, you definitely used them way too early last draft... oh wait...

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[johnnya24]

So how about getting rid of a hitter slot (OF) and combining the 1940/50 decade. And getting rid of a pitcher slot and combining the 2000/2010 decade?

23 letters (3 x QUIZY) ... no doubled letters
13 Hitters
10 Pitchers
And the Decade configuration as below

C	1870
C	1880
1B	1890
2B	1900
3B	1910
SS	1920
MI	1930
CI	1940	& 1950	(combined)
OF	1960
OF	1970
OF	1980
OF	1990
UT	2000	& 2010	(combined)
P	1870	& 1880	(combined)
P	1900
P	1910
P	1960
P	1970
P	1980
P	1990
P	2000	& 2010	(combined)
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950

[johnnya24]

Maybe we should dump the 1870's as a stand alone decade for this draft? Or don't combine the 1940's and 50's and leave a little bit of leeway there?

That way it will be either/or 1870 and 1940's

Or maybe even 1 from 3 (1870's, 1940's and 2010's)

[heyelander]

i prefer the 1 of 3 from decades.

[johnnya24]

i prefer the 1 of 3 from decades.

I think it's the better position also given the uncertainties of the format.

[johnnya24]

C	1880
C	1890
1B	1900
2B	1910
3B	1920
SS	1930
MI	1950
CI	1960
OF	1970
OF	1980
OF	1990
OF	2000
UT	1870	1940	2010
P	1870	& 1880	(combined)
P	1900
P	1910
P	1960
P	1970
P	1980
P	1990
P	2000	& 2010	(combined)
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950

Everyone cool with this?

23 letters (3 x QUIZY)
13 Hitters
10 Pitchers

Hitting: 13 from 15 decades
Pitching: 10 from 14 decades (with 1870/80 & 2000/10 considered as 1 decade)

No WC's or double letters.
4 instead of 5 OF's

[heyelander]

I think I like your 2 more picks and and double letters idea better. If you are trying to avoid WC, make them wildcards excluding BSWMC R(?) or like you said, select two letters (I think when we did the first name draft we required 4 J picks). Letter WCs make it too easy to get around the cross requirements I think.

Also, I assume in your example that someone couldn't take two 1920 Pitchers with those last two spots.

[The Feral Slasher]

I think I like your 2 more picks and and double letters idea better. If you are trying to avoid WC, make them wildcards excluding BSWMC R(?) or like you said, select two letters (I think when we did the first name draft we required 4 J picks). Letter WCs make it too easy to get around the cross requirements I think.Also, I assume in your example that someone couldn't take two 1920 Pitchers with those last two spots.

Not sure they really help with that. I think they just give you an additional player with good stats and give you a little extra flexibility at the end (assuming you save one or two of them). You still need to draft all the hard letters and decades. I could be wrong of course, and I don't really care that much what the rules are, I'm happy with whatever we decide...actually the more I think of it they probably do help. This is now probably pointless, but I'm too lazy to erase it.

[The Feral Slasher]

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[heyelander]

i'm thinking more of the flexibility at the end. WCs mean you have to worry less about backing yourself into a corner with position/letter/decades that you have left. I don't have to worry so much about the letter requirements from a certain decade because I can just use a wildcard there.

[heyelander]

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[The Feral Slasher]

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