*** VD 5 Commentary Thread ***

[TS Garp]

Will the wild cards apply to letters or decades, too? Or one of each?

[johnnya24]

Will the wild cards apply to letters or decades, too? Or one of each?

We'll dump the WC's in any combo draft, and also the 5 QUIZY's (we'll go back to 3 from 5)

I put up a poll to decide if we do it 10x10 or 5x5

I'll be happy to get back to 10x10 .. that is real vintage drafting

[Pogues]

Perhaps I'm naive, but letters/decades doesn't seem all that hard. But I did do well in the letters/franchises draft...

I'm REALLY going to try to be around for when this *@#$( draft starts...I seem to disappear for the wrong 10 days and miss the start of the drafts. I will need a spreadsheet with the new statistics though...I assume you guys have those with the recent draft.

My only issue with drafting is that for 4 days a week I work 10-12 hours a day without computer access. I know that can be an issue with some of you, but if I give out my cell#, we might be able to work around it...a bit.

[johnnya24]

Perhaps I'm naive, but letters/decades doesn't seem all that hard. But I did do well in the letters/franchises draft...

I'm REALLY going to try to be around for when this *@#$( draft starts...I seem to disappear for the wrong 10 days and miss the start of the drafts. I will need a spreadsheet with the new statistics though...I assume you guys have those with the recent draft.

My only issue with drafting is that for 4 days a week I work 10-12 hours a day without computer access. I know that can be an issue with some of you, but if I give out my cell#, we might be able to work around it...a bit.

Can you give Heye your cell number so we can alert you when we're starting?

[B-Fly]

Thanks for giving me a chance to play with y'all again, but I think I need to sit this next one out. Just too hard to squeeze in the time required to do this passably well.

[johnnya24]

Thanks for giving me a chance to play with y'all again, but I think I need to sit this next one out. Just too hard to squeeze in the time required to do this passably well.

What if we give you a 10% discount and throw in a free pen?

[The Feral Slasher]

We'll dump the WC's in any combo draft, and also the 5 QUIZY's (we'll go back to 3 from 5)

I put up a poll to decide if we do it 10x10 or 5x5

I'll be happy to get back to 10x10 .. that is real vintage drafting

So it looks like it will be 10 X10, no WC. How many hitters/pitchers ? How does an alpha/decade draft work ? I can't even remember how a decade draft works, I think there are some decades we don't need to pick from ?

[johnnya24]

So it looks like it will be 10 X10, no WC. How many hitters/pitchers ? How does an alpha/decade draft work ? I can't even remember how a decade draft works, I think there are some decades we don't need to pick from ?

The lineup is not straight forward, because a standard letter and decade draft have different setups. I really cannot remember if we've done one before. We have done letters and franchises.

Basically, the principle is that you must draft every letter and decade that is required. If you draft Gehrig 1933, you have just used up your G and your 1930's. You can no longer draft a G or a 1930's player.

But like I said, it's not straight forward with decades because we normally require 11 pitchers in a decade draft, and there is a separate decade list for hitting and pitching.

It won't be hard to figure ... I'll post the most obvious solution tomorrow and we can discuss it.

[Pogues]

We might need to do the 23 letters (14 hitters, 9 pitchers), combine the 1870s with the 1880s for the hitters, and the 9 pitchers...whoo boy...do we just allow to draft nine out of the 14/15 decades? We might need to do blocks of years and allow 3 out of 5 from each block...1870/80 to 1910, 1920 to 1960, and 1970 to 2010.

Or we could make it 14 and 11, with two wildcards...but you can't use the same letter for 2 hitters or for 2 pitchers. So if you use M twice, you have to use one for a hitter, one for a pitcher.

[heyelander]

screw

[johnnya24]

testing...

[spoil]

I don't have any time to do research ... I'll be winging it.

[heyelander]

Spoiler!

fuck you eldiablo!!!!

ah, it does work.

[johnnya24]

We might need to do the 23 letters (14 hitters, 9 pitchers), combine the 1870s with the 1880s for the hitters, and the 9 pitchers...whoo boy...do we just allow to draft nine out of the 14/15 decades? We might need to do blocks of years and allow 3 out of 5 from each block...1870/80 to 1910, 1920 to 1960, and 1970 to 2010.

Or we could make it 14 and 11, with two wildcards...but you can't use the same letter for 2 hitters or for 2 pitchers. So if you use M twice, you have to use one for a hitter, one for a pitcher.

I think the best plan is to change the Decade structure slightly to come in line with the Letters.

How about this (everyone has to use M and B twice):

C	1870
C	1880
1B	1890
2B	1900
3B	1910
SS	1920
MI	1930
CI	1940
OF	1950
OF	1960
OF	1970
OF	1980
OF	1990
UT	2000	&	2010	(combined)
P	1870	&	1880	(combined)
P	1900
P	1910
P	1960
P	1970
P	1980
P	1990
P	2000
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950	2010
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950	2010
P	1890	1920	1930	1940	1950	2010

So you draft the hitting lineup as with a normal decade draft ... one hitter per decade (with 2000 & 2010 combined).

The pitching rule will be 11 from: 1870/80 --> 2010. That will effectively mean 1 pitcher from 1870/80, 1900, 10, 60, 70, 80, 90, 2000 ... then 3 from the rest (1890, 1920, 30, 40, 50, 2010).

In addition, everyone must draft every letter except X, and 3 from 5 QUIZY's. To make up the final 2 letters, each player must draft a second M and a second B.

Edit: OK ... I ended up changing both. Trying to avoid WC letters or Decades.

[johnnya24]

I think we're pretty much at the point where you can just tell us what to do, Johnny.

Letters and decades. Make it so!

Actually I had nothing to do with this one

4 people had already agreed with Heyelander by the time I chimed in. So if this gets screwed up for some reason, Heyelander is the person to blame.

[heyelander]

Actually I had nothing to do with this one

4 people had already agreed with Heyelander by the time I chimed in. So if this gets screwed up for some reason, Heyelander is the person to blame.

I think it was Garp who first suggested it this time.

Anyway, I'm more of a big picture person... I'll let you hash out the details of my grand idea.