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These are the songs that made Rolling Stone's top 100 list (compiled in 2014) but not mine.
14. Sugar Mountain
18. Tired Eyes
22. Out on the Weekend
27. Human Highway
28. Goin' Home
31. I'm the Ocean
44. Barstool Blues
49. Sample and Hold (really?)
50. Be the Rain (REALLY?)
52. Stringman
53. Campaigner
57. Harvest
58. Borrowed Tune
59. Opera Star
62. A Man Needs a Maid
63. The Old Laughing Lady
66. Journey through the Past
67. Over and Over
68. Will to Love (ReAlLy?)
69. Mellow My Mind
70. Flying on the Ground Is Wrong
71. See the Sky About to Rain
73. Last Trip to Tulsa
77. Hitchhiker
80. It's a Dream
81. Bandit
84. Roger and Out
85. Out of Control
88. Surfer Joe and Moe the Sleaze
89. Eldorado
90. Piece of Crap
92. Throw Your Hatred Down
93. Computer Age (THROWS KEYBOARD AT WALL)
94. The Restless Consumer
95. Old King (really, y'all?)
96. Someday
97. When God Made Me
98. He Was the King
99. Walk Like a Giant
100. Homegrown
The biggest issue I have with the RS list is that it prioritizes political/cultural factors over musical ones. There is way too much political/social material from bad albums (Greendale and Living with War, I'm looking at you). I'm sure there would have been egregious misplacements of Monsanto Years material had it existed in 2014. The list also assesses many post-1979 guitar epics in ways I expressly disagree with. Leaving off No More, Love and Only Love and No Hidden Path is inexcusable. In fact, Freedom and Ragged Glory are devalued in general and I don't understand why. And including two vocoder songs from Trans just seems like a desperate attempt to be different for its own sake.Originally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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No "Hawks and Doves"! Or did I miss it?"I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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I am trying to put together my own top 15.
It is very difficult. One of the issues I have is that I am trying to determine how much influence the time of the song coming out should effect the list.
An example would be Ohio. When it came out I was living the lyrics. It was powerful. It was amazing. It was one of the best songs at the time. It is still right at the top for me. But after all these years should it be my number one now?
Fun exercise. I wonder what my final list will look like.
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Originally posted by chancellor View PostI actually like Out on the Weekend more than Heart of Gold; I'd have also found a home for Barstool Blues. Love the last verse and the guitar solo at the end.
But, yeah, you outdid RS by a wide, wide margin in terms of music quality.
* - The number 204 is a thing there. The first person to post this kind of countdown did the Beatles, and they released 204 songs during their existence.Originally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostI am trying to put together my own top 15.
It is very difficult. One of the issues I have is that I am trying to determine how much influence the time of the song coming out should effect the list.
An example would be Ohio. When it came out I was living the lyrics. It was powerful. It was amazing. It was one of the best songs at the time. It is still right at the top for me. But after all these years should it be my number one now?
Fun exercise. I wonder what my final list will look like.Originally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Erik View PostI really don’t care for side 2 of Hawks & Doves."I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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1. Powderfinger
2. Down by the River
3. Welfare Mothers
4. Like a Hurricane
5. After the Gold Rush
6. Tonight's the Night
7. Love and Only Love
8. Love to Burn
9. Ordinary People
10. Sugar Mountain
11. Hawks and Doves
12. Cortez the Killer
13. Ramada Inn
14. Hey Hey My My
15. Rockin in the Free World"I lingered round them, under that benign sky: watched the moths fluttering among the heath and harebells, listened to the soft wind breathing through the grass, and wondered how any one could ever imagine unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth."
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My top 15.
15-Cinnamon Girl
14-Broken Arrow
13-Only Love Can Break Your Heart
12-After the Gold Rush
11-Don’t let it Bring You Down
10-Southern Man
9-Needle and the Damage Done
8-Sugar Mountain
7-Cowgirl in the Sand
6-Heart of Gold
5-Hey Hey My My
4-Helpless
3-Long May You Run
2-Ohio
1-Old Man
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Originally posted by Mithrandir View Post1. Powderfinger
2. Down by the River
3. Welfare Mothers
4. Like a Hurricane
5. After the Gold Rush
6. Tonight's the Night
7. Love and Only Love
8. Love to Burn
9. Ordinary People
10. Sugar Mountain
11. Hawks and Doves
12. Cortez the Killer
13. Ramada Inn
14. Hey Hey My My
15. Rockin in the Free WorldOriginally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostMy top 15.
15-Cinnamon Girl
14-Broken Arrow
13-Only Love Can Break Your Heart
12-After the Gold Rush
11-Don’t let it Bring You Down
10-Southern Man
9-Needle and the Damage Done
8-Sugar Mountain
7-Cowgirl in the Sand
6-Heart of Gold
5-Hey Hey My My
4-Helpless
3-Long May You Run
2-Ohio
1-Old Man
Aside from Sugar Mountain, which I explained in my reaction to Mith's post, these all made my list and are great examples of what Neil can do.Originally posted by Kevin SeitzerWe pinch ran for Altuve specifically to screw over Mith's fantasy team.
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Originally posted by Erik View PostAside from Hawks and Doves I can't disagree with any of this. I'm not a huge fan of Sugar Mountain (it's #111 for me) because the lyrics are trite compared with his other iconic acoustic songs, and to me, lyrics matter more with the acoustic stuff than the electric stuff. But it's one of his greatest melodies. (And he wrote it in 1965 at age 20.) Side 2 of Hawks and Doves is just one long formulaic country song to me. What makes the title track stick out?
The lyrics are not trite but of moving into the very real and hard world of adult hood. So much so that Joni Mitchell felt the need to write a song in reply to her friend Neil. That song is Circle Game.
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