Flags fly forever - trade thoughts?

[Bene Futuis]

12 team mixed 5x5 w/ standard categories

I'm in 2nd floating about 5-6 points behind the leader. I'm also in 2nd in nearly every hitting category. Could use a pitching bump, as I'm in 4th-5th in pretty much every category with a BIG CAVEAT: the most ground I can gain is in saves, but can gain 1-2 points in each of Ks, Wins, and WHIP


I get:
Brandon Woodruff (expiring contract)

I give:
Nolan Gorman $1 (bumps to $5 through 2024)
1st round minors pick (pretty valuable due to $1/$5 structure when called up)


I'd prefer to trade for an elite closer but as luck would have it, they're pretty much all on the contending teams. I got outbid for Hader, which hurts now more in retrospect. You guys like this trade for me?

[harmon]

I wouldn't.

Woodruff has had injury issues this year and can't be counted on to be 100%.

[The Feral Slasher]

12 team mixed 5x5 w/ standard categories

I'm in 2nd floating about 5-6 points behind the leader. I'm also in 2nd in nearly every hitting category. Could use a pitching bump, as I'm in 4th-5th in pretty much every category with a BIG CAVEAT: the most ground I can gain is in saves, but can gain 1-2 points in each of Ks, Wins, and WHIP


I get:
Brandon Woodruff (expiring contract)

I give:
Nolan Gorman $1 (bumps to $5 through 2024)
1st round minors pick (pretty valuable due to $1/$5 structure when called up)


I'd prefer to trade for an elite closer but as luck would have it, they're pretty much all on the contending teams. I got outbid for Hader, which hurts now more in retrospect. You guys like this trade for me?

I hate giving up multiple years of young talent for an expiring contract. Throwing in a first round pick makes it even tougher. I'd only do it if your squad looks weak for next year and you think this deal will get you the win.

[Bene Futuis]

I'd only do it if your squad looks weak for next year

Not quite as strong as this year - let's call it an average set of keepers (with a couple absolute gems like a $5 Kyle Tucker and a $1 Julio Rodriguez).

and you think this deal will get you the win.

There's the rub. I can claw a few points here and there on the pitching side but best case scenario I gain about exactly the five points I'm behind right now. Potential gains: 1 pt. in Ks, 1 pt. wins, 3 pts. WHIP. ERA is extremely tight but I'm ahead of the pack of 5 owners sitting in 4th, would be a tough pull to get the .2 to climb up to 3rd and .3 to get to 2nd. Saves are where I can gain the most and I've been trying to start 3 closers. I'm in 7th in saves but only 4 behind 4th and 10 behind 2nd.


Edit: His first offer was truly one for the ages, lmao. He put Woodruff on the block and I started poking around and suggested a trade for my 1st and a lesser keeper. He countered with Woodruff for $1 Gorman, rookie Brett Baty, rookie Tristan Casas and my 1st and suggested that he had an equivalent offer on the table from someone else. Of course I told him that he'd do well to just take that other trade and rejected him. He then came back with just Gorman and the 1st.

[The Feral Slasher]

Not quite as strong as this year - let's call it an average set of keepers (with a couple absolute gems like a $5 Kyle Tucker and a $1 Julio Rodriguez).



There's the rub. I can claw a few points here and there on the pitching side but best case scenario I gain about exactly the five points I'm behind right now. Potential gains: 1 pt. in Ks, 1 pt. wins, 3 pts. WHIP. ERA is extremely tight but I'm ahead of the pack of 5 owners sitting in 4th, would be a tough pull to get the .2 to climb up to 3rd and .3 to get to 2nd. Saves are where I can gain the most and I've been trying to start 3 closers. I'm in 7th in saves but only 4 behind 4th and 10 behind 2nd.

that is a tough decision...if you can make another deal as well to push you over the top I'd be more likely to recommend it. At the same time, if it gives you a 50/50 shot at winning it might be worth it. Chances to win it all are probably worth it....maybe see if you can keep the draft pick ?

EDIT: Gorman should be more than enough without the draft pick. Unless you think your opponent is going to make a huge offer and crush your chances I would pass and offer just Gorman

[Bene Futuis]

Appreciate the help, gents.

[revo]

I would ask for a smidge more. One more useful part that is expendable to him.

[Bene Futuis]

Well, the dude did pull off a way better trade. Noelvi Marte, Michael Busch, and a 1st for Woodruff.

[onejayhawk]

For what it may be worth, I was moved to make a couple of deals last summer. Neither worked. I won the championship anyway but my preseason stash was depleted.

Flags fly forever but there are no guarantees.

J