Well, he's a tough decision for me (leaning against, maybe) as a keep at $5 in a 12 team mixed. I'd keep him at that price in an only league without a second thought, honestly.
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Responding to Gregg and Chance: I hear ya both, but to me the fact that they emphasized there was no tear PLUS the fact that they let him come back and while he was not as effective, the arm held up, I think it is reasonable to be cautiously optimistic that the time bomb won't go off soon. I recall Daisuke actually having an identified partial tear and pitching for years on it at a high level. And I think Sale had a fore arm strain early on and coupled with his mechanics, people waits for many years for his ligament to snap before it actually did. I do agree he is riskier than many, but how do you both feel about the fact that he came back and pitched much of the year after the strain and the ligament held up? Doesn't the show he could stay healthy this year too?
Given the possibility he stays healthy, his proven talent, and the addition of Brent Strom, I'd have a hard time taking more than 40 pitchers ahead of him in a mixed league. My risk aversion would be higher in an Only league, but I'd still take the risk after the first 20 or so arms.
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Maybe a comparison is useful here to see if you folks are just averse to any level of arm risk, or think Gallen represents more risk than I do.
Who would you take first or spend more money on--Gallen or Kershaw? Kershaw is one of my all-time favorite pitchers, but I'd take Gallen at this point. I think he is less risky. Or rather, the risk is different. Gallen has a better shot at 30 starts than Kershaw, but a better shot at missing 30 starts too. Still, if I had to pick one to start more games, I'd pick Gallen.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostMaybe a comparison is useful here to see if you folks are just averse to any level of arm risk, or think Gallen represents more risk than I do.
Who would you take first or spend more money on--Gallen or Kershaw? Kershaw is one of my alltime favorite pitchers, but I'd take Gallen at this point. I think he is less risky. Or rather, the risk is different. Gallen has a better shot at 30 starts than Kershaw, but a better shot at missing 30 starts too.
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I would also take Kershaw pretty easily over Gallen, even though I am apparently higher on Gallen than many others. However, that comes with a huge caveat, as Kershaw missed the postseason with injuries and I haven't heard much since then about how he's doing.More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostIt is funny that you mention Kershaw. I was actually comparing them. I am getting leery of Kershaw, yet I would easily take him over Gallen for this coming year. He is in the last year of his $29 contract in our NL only league. If he was back in this year I would probably go $22ish.
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Originally posted by Bene Futuis View PostI would also take Kershaw pretty easily over Gallen, even though I am apparently higher on Gallen than many others. However, that comes with a huge caveat, as Kershaw missed the postseason with injuries and I haven't heard much since then about how he's doing.
What do the Dodgers know that we don't. If they wouldn't go one year $18M, maybe I should pump the brakes a bit.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostGreat point!
What do the Dodgers know that we don't. If they wouldn't go one year $18M, maybe I should pump the brakes a bit.More American children die by gunfire in a year than on-duty police officers and active duty military.
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From what I have seen from early rankings, many places have them close together and some have Gallen ahead of Kershaw. Here are a couple of rankings that break that way:
Our old friend Sporer likes Gallen, ranking him at 31: https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/paul-s...2-sp-rankings/
The Fantrax consensus has Gallen higher as well:
https://fantasy.fangraphs.com/paul-s...2-sp-rankings/
ETA: Sporer really likes Sale too, ranking him 10th.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostYeah, it is just so surprising to me that you'd go to $22 for Kershaw but not even roster Gallen when, to me, he represents just as much risk as Gallen does at this point. At least until we learn more about how he is doing. I mean, I can see ranking Kersahw ahead of Gallen for sure, but they are close to me. Certainly not $22 apart.
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Originally posted by Gregg View PostI am going to be very angry if you all talk me into Gallen and he needs TJ.
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Originally posted by Sour Masher View PostMost of you are shockingly low on Gallen. He is risky, but the idea that he isn't worth a roster spot, even in a shallow mixed league, is crazy to me. He could end up winning people leagues if he is taken in the late rounds or dollar days.
Other SPs going around his ADP seem like much better values.
If he were 3-4 rounds cheaper, that would be another story.
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Originally posted by revo View PostTo be fair, his ADP is 135, which means you'd have to take him in the 8th-9th rd of a 15-16tm mixed league -- that's not chump change. So I think they're looking at risk/reward, and I agree, if you need to use an 8th rd pick on Gallen to land him, he's probably not worth the risk (both injury risk and ineffectiveness risk).
Other SPs going around his ADP seem like much better values.
If he were 3-4 rounds cheaper, that would be another story.
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